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On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 7:41 AM, Raul Bonell <raul.bonell@gmail.com> wrote: > does anybody come around to capture some kind of tempo map, > from MIDI out of the plexi when used as master? ... The Echoplex doesn't create tempo maps. It stays on the same tempo until you change it, then it simply starts sending out the new tempo right away (MIDI Clock, pulse or Brother Sync). > i've tried to record the midi out but it seems there is not MIDI clock >going I recorded the beat pulse output on a computer DAW track when running the Echoplex as master (Sync=Out). Then I played the computer and synced the Echoplex to the audio pulse. It worked fine. > does somebody do this in ableton live? I'm not sure you can record the MIDI Clock data. But Ableton Live can be synced to an incoming MIDI Clock stream. Live doesn't sync very accurately though, because of the tempo smoothing. When I record with loopers and want good syncing to software DAW's I usually loop first - with no sync, so the looper will spin freely. I record the audio from that looping session and then apply the DAW's time grid to what I played with the looper. There is no machine that can do tempo sync as good as human hearing, simply because machines don't understand music. The machine has to wait until the tempo drifts and then start making corrections - but for the listening humans the musical feel has already gone havoc by then ;-) -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) www.myspace.com/perboysen www.stockholm-athens.com