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Normally, if there is a hardware solution and the person said, "I don't want to use a laptop." I wouldn't touch it but I did translate the "I'm not a computer guy" phrase with the "Max MSP" bit to mean he's not up for trying to build the thing in Max himself. I'll give a plus one to the Electroharmonix loopers though if you want a tabletop solution. Hell, I'll even go as far as to suggest a used Electrix Repeater if you can find one at a decent price on Ebay. Either is going to be less expensive than a laptop, MaxMSP and a JazzMutant Lemur. but but but... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbewC2OPFGA That makes me drool. ALL HAIL THE UNIVERSAL TOOL OF AWESOMENESS! Truthfully though, when I'm using Mobius it's interface is on a separate monitor and to me it's indistinguishable from a piece of rack gear being controlled by my Behringer FCB1010. The FCB1010 is dedicated to Mobius as is the monitor. I've got a second FCB1010 that only controls Amplitube X-GEAR and KORE 2/Remote25 SL to mess with synths. The only thing that pushed me away from gear (you've seen my old rig) is that I discovered "virtual" patching and I can't go back to a world without it. On Aug 20, 2008, at 1:32 AM, Matt Davignon wrote: > Just teasing, Mark. > > I must have had 10 questions so far this year (mostly on other lists) > where I said "I'm not looking for software or max patches", and all > the replies I got were "dude, max patches!" It gave me a giggle to see > it happen to someone else. > > Yes, most of the stuff in my current rig is a computer of some sort, > but they're all built to do specific things. I heart my hardware. Even > though I'm a big fan of computer music, the idea of replacing all my > gear with a universal tool of awesomeness doesn't appeal to me. > > If all the drum machines in the world were to burst into flames > tomorrow, I'd find other instruments before I started getting involved > with dr-660 emulators on my laptop. > > Matt > > Mark Sottilaro was all: >> From his post it seemed he didn't want to tackle making a looper >> in Max MSP. >> Anyone who even is aware of Max and the Lemur is already saying that >> they've got some computer music knowledge. >> >> Do you really think your Boss DR-660 isn't a computer? >