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> Anyone else want to review the KAOSS PAD 3 as a looping device? > It's just fantastic for re sampling and loop stuff we've done Hi Rick, there's a comparison of a few different Kaoss devices here: http://www.loopers-delight.com/LDarchive/200802/msg00005.html and info on the KP3 software 2.0 here: http://www.loopers-delight.com/LDarchive/200802/msg00015.html There's also a video demo (sw version 1.x): http://video.google.de/videoplay?docid=-4135927290013891493 referenced here: http://www.loopers-delight.com/LDarchive/200706/msg00438.html and here's a review of the KP3 (sw version 1.x): http://www.loopers-delight.com/LDarchive/200706/msg00339.html The short 411 from a looper's perspective: * No "first loop capability" (samples of arbitrary length are only possible for oneshot samples) * no true overdub, but resampling can be used as a faux overdub * maximum loop length (per slot): around 13s (it's 16 beats down to above 73bpm, then it halves to 8 beats etc.) * FX release and a short record function for pad movements are great enhancements over the KP2 * a big letdown: you can't pan samples, and you can't put them (or the live signal) pre/post FX: it's always pre FX * loop storage on SD card. Cumbersome process of storing/loading loops and proprietary format (i.e. no WAV/AIFF files) Summary: if it had first loop capability and perhaps a few more seconds of loop length (let's say double the amount) and the possibility to selectively route the slots and the live signal to the FX, then it would be extremely cool. Rainer