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Perhaps interesting to note how technological development affects music. The pitch change thing was originally a feature of tape loops, and then with some primitive digital delays. afaik the first looping device with varispeed was the Electroharmonix 16s delay. Those original digital delays were able to do the varispeed by changing the the clock frequency, and hence sampling frequency, of the whole device. Then came more powerful dsp chips, which had their operating frequency locked (by a vibrating crystal), so varispeed became impossible for a while, because there wasn't enough processing power available to run complex the algorithms which are needed to do varispeed with a fixed sample rate. Although half speed wasn't too difficult. These days, we have greater processing power available, and varispeed is once again available. andy butler ps indeed, the scripting in Mobius appears to be unique, however I don't think the concept is totally new. With devices/software that respond to midi people have achieved pretty much the same ends by programming their midi-controller. Of course, Mobius takes this further, :-) and works with the budget fcb1010 Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill wrote: >> (none of these have anything to do with the LP1- or EDP >> concept. It's a new thing, really) > > Frankly, no. You can do that with the Repeater as well (or with the >digitech > time machines). > > Rainer > >