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Ciao Mark, I really wish you and your "better half" the best luck and energy. I have had a 6 months side by side looping life before deciding to seel my edps and go laptop. I am more than satisfied to have decided this way. I think Mobius is now reaching a level where considering it a clone to the edp would be very limitative. Yes, it takes the basic, smart, UI concept of the edps as a root, but you need to leave that reference after a short while, otherways you risk to miss most of Mobius potential, or misunderstand it. I am using Mobius in Audiomulch with great success, no problems at all. At this reference let me update you about AM: next version will be available for Mac as well; Mobius already is, so you might consider to stay on a Mac... http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/mulch-discuss/ While most of them will be "interface issues" I bet you will sort out by yourself with some use, I would like to help you save some time on the following: -volume: I keep the output volume of each track to "110" instead of "127". this way you keep some headroom to be overloaded by growing loop layers or multiple loops. -Speed change is still something Mobius ( dear Jeff) has to develop further, so don't expect too much out of it right now. -the list is here: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/zonemobius/ Wish you all the best, Luca www.unguitar.com mark francombe ha scritto: > Hi guys, > > As many of you know from my previous rants aginst the "laptop loopers" > I am a self proclaimed "hardware head" (its a medical condition you >know). > > But I thought I would write a few notes to the group regarding my > first experiences of.. wait for it, wait for it.... MOBIUS!!! > > But first a raison d'être: I was going to be at Y2k8, and perform. I > was planning a NEW IMPROVED streamlined flight friendly case, empty of > loopers (that I could borrow en situ) but full of... well my stuff. > (synth modules, joysticks, and pitchshiftin, bit crushing madness.) It > was then that it happened, I considered it, for the first time... > laptop... gulp... and mobius... > As some of you know I have had to cancel my trip and performance, cos > my better half Hilde has been diagnosed with Cervical Cancer and we > have just started her Radiation and Chemo therapy yesterday... some > things come before looping guys. (and girls...go get them thar smear > tests.. don't walk... run... ) > > Why have I always been against software, well it all stems from a > period where I only produced music on computer, its was great... I did > 2 maybe three great albums, using predominately Audio Mulch... I was > drawn in by the wealth of possibilities, the infinate versions, > radical mix after radical mix... I dreamt up instruments, then I > created them, in SynthEdit or Reactor, I micro edited samples down at > the sample level, building sounds from scratch, morphing one thing > into another, I made aleatoric systems that played themselves getting > their only data from weather pressure data from an alaskan website, I > listened and recorded actual live police radio from Saracuse, it was a > blast!!! > > But then I added up the amount of hours spent at a computer. As a > film-maker as my dayjob, then coming home and using a computer for > fun... I was sat there.. 18 hours a day, in front of the screen. > > So I went back to the (now dusty rack and modular synth) and never > looked back... until now (Here comes the Mobius stuff for those that > thought this was a Mobius review). > > I thought.. so what if I just had my guitar and a > laptop..(reintroducing the guitar should keep it physical) and so for > a mere 3 hours last night I gave it a go. > I was mightily impressed. > But not without some reservations. > > First-up I should say I couldnt get my FCB1010 to work with it. I > should say that I will buy a PC lap and a decent sound/midi card when > I have completely convinced myself, but for now I thought I would try > it out with my M audio Ozone. Imagine my dismay when I went round the > back of the keyboard and looked at "That other midi plug that should > be midi IN"... Oh no.. its something called USB in... not a USB > socket, but a midi plug, not sure what its for, but it aint midi IN... > so no pedal power for now... > > And I think THAT issue would probably solve all my problems. As > everyone knows, you cant loop with a mouse click... impossible, but I > tried, oh and this with the new mac version. I will get a PC do do > this eventually, so I can run it inside Mulch (anyone using Mobius in > Mulch BTW... works?? or??) > > Sound quality was excellent, I think I probably have to change the > noise floor setting, cos it was writing Overdubs every loop, even > though I wasnt playing anything (that is the same as on the EDP > right...? Dont play, no overdub??) > > I loved the fact that I could now SEE what was happening with the > overdub layers, with the quantized up-coming commands. > > I was annoyed by the fact that one track stayed in Overdub when I > switched to another... any need for that? > > And is it still recording into that first track while you make a new > track? > > So actually I DIDNT like that it had multiple tracks, I could use ONE > more than the edp... so two... and I like that they are stereo, but I > found myself going to new tracks all the time, like it was a repeater, > and that makes a different kind of music... that is unweildy and > repetative, one that you cant change in a moment cos everything is > spread across tracks... god 4 tracks is too many on the Repeater for me!! > > None of the speed change or pitch shift things worked (apart from the > EDPish hlfspeed, worked fine) but thats probably a mac version port > thing-soon to be fixed. > > It distorted quite easily for me after a few overdubs, prob need to > fiddle with gain structure I guess, but I am used to be able to HIT > THE GUITAR!!! and stroke it... > > LOVED the idea of the track slip thing (is this the same as on the > repeater? Should it slip by cycles, beats.. what?) unfortunatly that > crashed Mobius on my machine... > > Also LOVED the idea of different presets on each track. (But needed to > figure out how to change the default settings) Does ANYONE have > UN-synched tracks as a default? Why? > > And seriously intrigued (but not enough time to try) by the scripts >thing. > One of my current techniques is to fire a bunch of midi notes at my > EDP from my drum-machine. I regularly have pre worked-out sequences > for example... that overdubs then changes the 8ths setting then goes > half speed, reverse, normal speed, forward, multiply... then 25 undos > in a row. Now Im NOT SURE if scripts will let me do the same thing... > but I think so... and more besides... record on track one after an > 8th, switch to track 2, repeat across all tracks, wher all tracks are > pre pitched to different notes, THEN after one bar stop record on one > and insert one space later... bla bla bla... > > What does "Shuffle" do? Button didnt seem to do anything. > > I am yet to be able to say how it FEELS... This has been one of my > things in previous posts, that just like a favoured guitar, where you > love the action or the tone, and how it sits against your knee, a > looper has FEEL. The EDP to me has lots of FEEL, I play WITH it, > forget it, it surprises me, yet never tricks me. My OTHER looper the > repeater, has NO FEEL, I like its features, but I must treat it like a > tape machine, I switch it on, it records, it loops, it does what I > tell it, but I cant forget it, one Undo, and 4 tracks means I lose > myself in where what is, I need to remove something and take down the > wrong track > > Now... with Mobius inside Mulch... with different tracks coming out to > different bubbleblowers? shiiiiiiiit.. > > > > > So im not there yet... would like some feeback on these questions, but > I will probably joint the Mobius list and hang out for a bit... > Need to borrow a new soundcard witha midi IN and try it with FCB.. > maybe the FEEL is ok... man... > > By the way.. where is the Mobius list, couldnt find it at Yahoo... > > thats it for now... good first impresions... but scared what the > future might bring (in more ways than one - see 3rd paragraph) > > Later kids, dont stay up to late.. > > Mark > > > > > -- > www.markfrancombe.com <http://www.markfrancombe.com/> > http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe > http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe > www.looop.no <http://www.looop.no/> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 270.7.5/1697 - Release Date: >29/09/2008 7.40 >