Re: Mobius first impressions... and questions.

["L.Angulo" <labaloops@yahoo.com>]

yes,u did that yourself? so simple yet very tasteful!
I also find the Looerpatives logo on the website simple but nice Bob why 
is it not on the hardware?I also liked the blue front panel on the first 
units!

www.myspace.com/luisangulocom


--- On Tue, 9/30/08, Matthias Grob <matilists@atarde.com.br> wrote:

> From: Matthias Grob <matilists@atarde.com.br>
> Subject: Re: Mobius first impressions... and questions.
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Date: Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 4:27 PM
> >
> > But i still love hardware,much sexier than stearing at
> a laptop and  
> > dealing with mouses,so if Matthias comes up with a new
> hardware  
> > stereo EDP with better sound quality upgradable and
> loop storage and  
> > new cool functions i am buying one!
> 
> I hope to get there!
> >
> > oh,and with his beautiful old logo offcourse;-)
> 
> you mean LOOP ? one of the first things I did on my first
> mac in  
> 1990 ;-)
> >
> >
> > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- On Tue, 9/30/08, mark francombe
> <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote:
> >
> >> From: mark francombe
> <mark@markfrancombe.com>
> >> Subject: Mobius first impressions... and
> questions.
> >> To: "loopers-delight"
> <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
> >> Date: Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 12:59 PM
> >> Hi guys,
> >>
> >> As many of you know from my previous rants aginst
> the
> >> "laptop loopers" I am
> >> a self proclaimed "hardware head" (its a
> medical
> >> condition you know).
> >>
> >> But I thought I would write a few notes to the
> group
> >> regarding my first
> >> experiences of.. wait for it, wait for it....
> MOBIUS!!!
> >>
> >> But first a raison d'être: I was going to be
> at Y2k8,
> >> and perform. I was
> >> planning a NEW IMPROVED streamlined flight
> friendly case,
> >> empty of loopers
> >> (that I could borrow en situ) but full of... well
> my stuff.
> >> (synth modules,
> >> joysticks, and pitchshiftin, bit crushing
> madness.) It was
> >> then that it
> >> happened, I considered it, for the first time...
> laptop...
> >> gulp... and
> >> mobius...
> >> As some of you know I have had to cancel my trip
> and
> >> performance, cos my
> >> better half Hilde has been diagnosed with Cervical
> Cancer
> >> and we have just
> >> started her Radiation and Chemo therapy
> yesterday... some
> >> things come before
> >> looping guys. (and girls...go get them thar smear
> tests..
> >> don't walk...
> >> run... )
> >>
> >> Why have I always been against software, well it
> all stems
> >> from a period
> >> where I only produced music on computer, its was
> great... I
> >> did 2 maybe
> >> three great albums, using predominately Audio
> Mulch... I
> >> was drawn in by the
> >> wealth of possibilities, the infinate versions,
> radical mix
> >> after radical
> >> mix... I dreamt up instruments, then I created
> them, in
> >> SynthEdit or
> >> Reactor, I micro edited samples down at the sample
> level,
> >> building sounds
> >> from scratch, morphing one thing into another, I
> made
> >> aleatoric systems that
> >> played themselves getting their only data from
> weather
> >> pressure data from an
> >> alaskan website, I listened and recorded actual
> live police
> >> radio from
> >> Saracuse, it was a blast!!!
> >>
> >> But then I added up the amount of hours spent at a
> >> computer. As a film-maker
> >> as my dayjob, then coming home and using a
> computer for
> >> fun... I was sat
> >> there.. 18 hours a day, in front of the screen.
> >>
> >> So I went back to the (now dusty rack and modular
> synth)
> >> and never looked
> >> back... until now (Here comes the Mobius stuff for
> those
> >> that thought this
> >> was a Mobius review).
> >>
> >> I thought.. so what if I just had my guitar and a
> >> laptop..(reintroducing the
> >> guitar should keep it physical) and so for a mere
> 3 hours
> >> last night I gave
> >> it a go.
> >> I was mightily impressed.
> >> But not without some reservations.
> >>
> >> First-up I should say I couldnt get my FCB1010 to
> work with
> >> it. I should say
> >> that I will buy a PC lap and a decent sound/midi
> card when
> >> I have completely
> >> convinced myself, but for now I thought I would
> try it out
> >> with my M audio
> >> Ozone. Imagine my dismay when I went round the
> back of the
> >> keyboard and
> >> looked at "That other midi plug that should
> be midi
> >> IN"... Oh no.. its
> >> something called USB in... not a USB socket, but a
> midi
> >> plug, not sure what
> >> its for, but it aint midi IN... so no pedal power
> for
> >> now...
> >>
> >> And I think THAT issue would probably solve all my
> >> problems. As everyone
> >> knows, you cant loop with a mouse click...
> impossible, but
> >> I tried, oh and
> >> this with the new mac version. I will get a PC do
> do this
> >> eventually, so I
> >> can run it inside Mulch (anyone using Mobius in
> Mulch
> >> BTW... works?? or??)
> >>
> >> Sound quality was excellent, I think I probably
> have to
> >> change the noise
> >> floor setting, cos it was writing Overdubs every
> loop, even
> >> though I wasnt
> >> playing anything (that is the same as on the EDP
> right...?
> >> Dont play, no
> >> overdub??)
> >>
> >> I loved the fact that I could now SEE what was
> happening
> >> with the overdub
> >> layers, with the quantized up-coming commands.
> >>
> >> I was annoyed by the fact that one track stayed in
> Overdub
> >> when I switched
> >> to another... any need for that?
> >>
> >> And is it still recording into that first track
> while you
> >> make a new track?
> >>
> >> So actually I DIDNT like that it had multiple
> tracks, I
> >> could use ONE more
> >> than the edp... so two... and I like that they are
> stereo,
> >> but I found
> >> myself going to new tracks all the time, like it
> was a
> >> repeater, and that
> >> makes a different kind of music... that is
> unweildy and
> >> repetative, one that
> >> you cant change in a moment cos everything is
> spread across
> >> tracks... god 4
> >> tracks is too many on the Repeater for me!!
> >>
> >> None of the speed change or pitch shift things
> worked
> >> (apart from the EDPish
> >> hlfspeed, worked fine) but thats probably a mac
> version
> >> port thing-soon to
> >> be fixed.
> >>
> >> It distorted quite easily for me after a few
> overdubs, prob
> >> need to fiddle
> >> with gain structure I guess, but I am used to be
> able to
> >> HIT THE GUITAR!!!
> >> and stroke it...
> >>
> >> LOVED the idea of the track slip thing (is this
> the same as
> >> on the repeater?
> >> Should it slip by cycles, beats.. what?)
> unfortunatly that
> >> crashed Mobius on
> >> my machine...
> >>
> >> Also LOVED the idea of different presets on each
> track.
> >> (But needed to
> >> figure out how to change the default settings)
> Does ANYONE
> >> have UN-synched
> >> tracks as a default? Why?
> >>
> >> And seriously intrigued (but not enough time to
> try) by the
> >> scripts thing.
> >> One of my current techniques is to fire a bunch of
> midi
> >> notes at my EDP from
> >> my drum-machine. I regularly have pre worked-out
> sequences
> >> for example...
> >> that overdubs then changes the 8ths setting then
> goes half
> >> speed, reverse,
> >> normal speed, forward, multiply... then 25 undos
> in a row.
> >> Now Im NOT SURE
> >> if scripts will let me do the same thing... but I
> think
> >> so... and more
> >> besides... record on track one after an 8th,
> switch to
> >> track 2, repeat
> >> across all tracks, wher all tracks are pre pitched
> to
> >> different notes, THEN
> >> after one bar stop record on one and insert one
> space
> >> later... bla bla
> >> bla...
> >>
> >> What does "Shuffle" do? Button didnt
> seem to do
> >> anything.
> >>
> >> I am yet to be able to say how it FEELS... This
> has been
> >> one of my things in
> >> previous posts, that just like a favoured guitar,
> where you
> >> love the action
> >> or the tone, and how it sits against your knee, a
> looper
> >> has FEEL. The EDP
> >> to me has lots of FEEL, I play WITH it, forget it,
> it
> >> surprises me, yet
> >> never tricks me. My OTHER looper the repeater, has
> NO FEEL,
> >> I like its
> >> features, but I must treat it like a tape machine,
> I switch
> >> it on, it
> >> records, it loops, it does what I tell it, but I
> cant
> >> forget it, one Undo,
> >> and 4 tracks means I lose myself in where what is,
> I need
> >> to remove
> >> something and take down the wrong track
> >>
> >> Now... with Mobius inside Mulch... with different
> tracks
> >> coming out to
> >> different bubbleblowers? shiiiiiiiit..
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> So im not there yet... would like some feeback on
> these
> >> questions, but I
> >> will probably joint the Mobius list and hang out
> for a
> >> bit...
> >> Need to borrow a new soundcard witha midi IN and
> try it
> >> with FCB.. maybe the
> >> FEEL is ok... man...
> >>
> >> By the way.. where is the Mobius list, couldnt
> find it at
> >> Yahoo...
> >>
> >> thats it for now... good first impresions... but
> scared
> >> what the future
> >> might bring (in more ways than one - see 3rd
> paragraph)
> >>
> >> Later kids, dont stay up to late..
> >>
> >> Mark
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -- 
> >> www.markfrancombe.com
> >> http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe
> >> http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe
> >> www.looop.no
> >
> >
> >
> >