| Hey Jim,   I did get an off list  message that said and I 
found it mentioned (I forgot to check the LD archive,duh) that he 
uses DGADGC  for his Glissentar. I have not tried it yet. I still have a long way to 
go with the one I started on,  EABead. I am making progress on finding the notes but I still think in 
guitar. It is such a wonderfully resonant instrument and I love playing it. When 
looping I find it feedsback like crazy, more than my electric acoustic. I have 
been using headphones to work on that. maybe some kind of rubber plugs  when amplified. Hopefully that wouldn't kill the tone to badly. It has been 
a gas learning something new. Hopefully I'll nail something to put up for ya soon. I really appreciate 
the help you have been to me on this radical new trick for an old dog. I'm 
saving for an electric...  more on that... I would like to put my hands on 
some of the ones we looked at.   peace,              
j 
  ----- Original Message -----  Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2008 3:43 
  PM Subject: Re: Oud tunings 
 
  Jeff as you know  from our initial discussions i'm using the 
  Turkish/Armenian Tim ref's EABead.  If Torn plays standard on guitar I 
  would bet he uses this or possibly is torquing this one to near guitar as it's 
  not far away.  I think however using these intervals gives some really 
  wonderful textures.  With my guitars I largely work in DADGAD and 
  had  givenn some thought to using DADFAD which I had found in my research 
  however I've been a fan of EABead in my time iwth the oud and continue to 
  be.  At the recent NYC 
  Fretless Guitar Fest  which I performed on both guitar and oud, another 
  musician/fretless player there Edward 
  Powell  who is also an oudist in addition to being a luthier, had suggested 
  dropping the low E string down to B which I haven't tried as yet so tuing 
  BABead.  I'm not sure with the nylon string how well the E to B would 
  tone but it might become more usful percussively from it's looseness.  
  Hope you are digging it...  J
 
 On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 8:57 AM, Tim Nelson <psychle62@yahoo.com>  
wrote:
   Hi 
    Jeff,
 Can't remember where/when (and this could be wrong), but I seem 
    to recall DT saying in an interview that (as he does on guitar) he uses 
    several different tunings.
 
 You might start with these and tweak with 
    impunity:
 Standard Egyptian/Arab: D G A D G C
 Old Turkish Classical: A 
    D E A D G
 New Turkish Classical: F# B E A D G
 Turkish/Armenian: E A B 
    E A D
 Turkish/Armenian Variant: C# F# B E A D
 Standard Cumbus: D E A D 
    G C
 
 This page is useful too: <http://www.oudcafe.com/stringing_and_tuning.htm>
 
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 --- On Fri, 
    10/3/08, Jeff Duke <jeff_d@embarqmail.com> 
    wrote:
 
 > From: Jeff Duke <jeff_d@embarqmail.com>
 > 
    Subject: Oud tunings
 > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
 > 
    Date: Friday, October 3, 2008, 9:26 PM
 
 
    
    > Just want to throw this out here, you can mail me 
    back> offlist to save bandwidth.
 > Does anyone know what tuning 
    David Torn uses? I have search
 > for awhile with no luck and its hard 
    for me as a very new
 > oudist to tell from his 
    recordings.
 >
 > thanx,
 >
 > 
    Jeff
 >
 >
 > Out here in the Great Beyond, everything is 
    strange.
 > The sooner you get used to that, the better off 
    you'll
 > be.
 > Allen Steele
 > Galaxy 
    Blues
 
 
 
 
 
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