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Re: Moog Guitar

>Best things about it were the zero latency
 
The GR300 still beats the modeling on latency. Wayne Joness (a brilliant guitar synth geek) did some latency testing. You can see his results here:
http://www.joness.com/gr300/MIDI_SPEED.htm
 
Basically, the GR300 is still almost twice as fast as the modeller in the VG-88. I can't imagine the VG-8 did any better. And if you used the polyphonic pitch, the VG-88 gets even slower.

 
From: Toby G <carpet8@mac.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2008 10:23:02 AM
Subject: Re: Moog Guitar

If we're talking about the VG-8:
 
You could change the "synth" sounds by affecting the envelope and filtering.  There wasn't much ability to choose a waveform as a basis for synthesis.
If you're creative you can use the built in effects and pitch shift as parts of the sound editing.  Best things about it were the zero latency and the fact that it was not sample based synthesis.
 
t
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Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2008 1:02 AM
Subject: Re: Moog Guitar

so it IS possible to mangle? I thought it was supposed to be somewhat unmaleable... either its possibilities or due to clunky interface? expound please?

On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 8:34 AM, Toby G <carpet8@mac.com> wrote:
I had the first vg8 model. It never really had much resonance physically.  Of course the tones I had coming out of it were pretty mangled. 

t
--at the peak of the disco outfreakage...


On Oct 26, 2008, at 12:30 AM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote:

Its waaaaay more than a polyphonic ebow!!!! How can you say that...Its not just able to ADD infinate sustain but to reduce it, therfore making more banjo-like tones

 admittedly 6K seems too much, but im sure thats the R&D talking...

some of the videos ive seen have the players explain how the guitar actually changes its FEEL as it changes attack modes. This interests me. Although Ive said this before on the list -  I have a fernandez pickup on my baritone guitar, and when it is on (almost all the time) my guitar "comes alive", and pushes back. Anyone who has worked under extreme volume levels (but WITH earplugs) will know, that is a very satisfying feeling. Im sure that with less attack (more sustain) comes a relaxed, wild and free playing style, wheras short decay (with no accidental re-triggering as with my midi guitar sounds) will give a more precise and careful playing style.

Incidentaly, can anyone with the V System tell me, what is it like to play thru it with loud volume, does it still react as a guitar, or is it more like a midi guitar.
Ive ben considering this system for ages, but I really donīt care to get a system just cos it prtends to me just like the same combination of strat and marshall as Hendrix used on All along the watchtower.. god no.. what is the point (unless you are in the band that plays on the danish/norwegian channel...) But Im very interested if I can just plug in my baritone, and make a new instrument.

Anyway, back to thread, I agree with Toby, any day now Im sure Behringer... I mean someone will bring out a cheaper version.. Ha ha..

m






On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 5:51 AM, Toby G <carpet8@mac.com> wrote:
I'm pretty sure the technology is gonna be done cheaper by somebody else in a few years.  I think it's a f'n cool guitar.  I didn't get that it was that close to being a slide guitar.
 
t
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Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2008 8:23 PM
Subject: Moog Guitar

Has anyone tried out one of the Moog Guitars?  http://www.moogmusic.com/moogguitar/

At first glance, $6K seems like a lot for a one-trick pony. I can create more interesting sounds when I plug my guitar into my laptop and use max/msp.  Now that I think of it, the sound clips on the moog website make it sound like just an over glorified slide guitar or guitar using an ebow. I was expecting some fat moog like sounds coming out of a guitar...like a Roland GR300 but a lot better.

Kris



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