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----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeff Shirkey" <jcshirke@midway.uchicago.edu>
To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 5:40 PM
Subject: Re: (OT) Obama
>
>
>> A week after the Berlin Wall fell I was on a beach in California,
>> enjoying the positive benefits of a surging economy thanks to Reagan's
>> administration and the belief on the part of most Americans that
>things
>> were getting much better.
>
> Yes, those were the days--Iran/Contra, the beginning of trickle down
> economics (prosperity sure never trickled down to the people I know),
>and
> the continued cultivation of fear mongering ("The evil empire").
Hm, Iran/Contra, a series of blown-out hearing that let a lot of
politicians
grandstand without really saying anything, or really doing anything but
appearing to do something about it? Trickle-down was never allowed to
work,
then was blamed because it never worked by the same people who stopped it.
So you didn't think that Communism was anything but a soft belief system
that never threatened anyone huh? Ask the Albanians. There should be
some
in your town, as a lot of them fled to the US to avoid being slaughtered
by
the Red Army.
> Of course, in retrospect, Bush II makes Bush I and Reagan look like
> gentle, wise old men.
I kind of think of Bush II as a bit like Herbert Hoover. Not a lot for a
satirist to work with, and whatever cartoons one can draw of the guy
always
look the same.
>> I don't want that fear introduced again into my country's mindset,
>by
>> a man with no foreign policy beyond imitation diplomacy and PR stunts.
>
> We have much bigger problems facing us than the threat that someone is
> going to launch a nuke our direction.
Like what?
> Second, I have the utmost confidence that Obama will put together a
> cabinet of skilled and extremely capable people.
Do ya think Colin Powell's going to be there? Do ya? It's their
so-called
"skills" at hiding socialistic efforts that I'm concerned about. Remember
Hilary in the 96 convention pounding her fist into her hand and repeating
how we (aka "not us" in the liberal camp) "have to pay your fair (fist
pound) share (fist pound)"? What was that about, being forced to share
your candy?
> And unlike Bush II, I suspect he'll actually listen to them before
>making
> an informed decision--whatever the issue(s) may be.
Ah, the Massiah. How do you know what's in a man's mind? Where's the
proof?
> Third, he's much more informed about foreign policy than Bush II ever
>was
> going into office.
URLs or it doesn't exist.
> Fourth, he has Biden's considerable experience to draw upon. I could go
> on...
And old Demo Biden does, though not in the foreign policy sector. Perhaps
he'll get Obama to start plagiarising Martin Luther King speeches.
>> I won't answer any of this twaddle after tomorrow, since like most
>> Conservatives, I intend to get on with my life instead of whining
>about
>> the election being "rigged" just because I disagreed with the result.
>
> The funny thing is, I went to bed last night feeling confident that the
> political climate in this country might genuinely begin to change. Both
> McCain and Obama's post-election remarks were conciliatory. Both of
>them
> acknowledged the need for the right and left to work together to solve
> the considerable problems we are facing. I think both of them, despite
> some very important policy disagreements, are moderates who understand
> the need to work across party lines.
One hopes for the best.
> I hope the bitterness and disdain you have regarding the election
>passes,
> and I hope it's not indicative of the way the other 50 million people
>who
> voted for McCain feel today.
Funny how you have the power to read people's minds and see into their
souls. Has this gone on a long time? You've forgotten the "bitterness
and
disdain" (gentle phrases for this) that the Left felt post 2000 and 2004.
Hey, even the antique Electoral College didn't help Kerry there. Gasp!
They must have cheated!
> We've got to move past the winner-take-all mentality that follows
>election
> night, while the loser harbors resentment and plots revenge.
Whew, sounds like what I was saying about Democrats the past eight years.
>I think this country can do a lot better than that. There's way too much
>at
>stake to continue the culture wars.
Let's hope the wars remain cultural.
SP Goodman
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