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i usually approach things on the contrary way. it works better for me.no counterpoint. no theme, neither variations. even no bach at all. i had enough while studying piano. raul. 2008/11/13, Stefan Smulovitz <stefan@kenaxis.com>: >> Per wrote: >> >> The most simple form of improvisation is to simply react on sound by >> making sound, that causes a reaction, that you then react on by making >> another sound etc etc. This may cerate interesting music both from the >> interplay between human musicians and the interplay between musicians >> and looping devices. It's a developing spiral of questions and >> answers. It's a bouncing fun game. > > This is exactly why I like the term instant composition. When I hear > good improvisation - even completely free improvisation - I feel an > underlying sense of organization in time. The use of form, repetition, > counterpoint - all of these are things I like to hear in > improvisation. I find simple reaction improv based on a simple form of > listening to be less satisfying. Obviously looping creates form by its > very nature - but I think all improv can be aware of form and gain > much in musical richness if it takes advantage of compositional > techniques. I think all of the masters of improv are fully aware of > this - but there is another level of improvisors that use energy and > creativity in great ways but could benefit from some compositional > thinking. > > So to add to the thread about practicing - I would recommend > practicing thinking about composition. How is this improvisation > structured in time. Theme and variations, ABA form, even verse, verse > chorus as loosely implied by the music in your mind. Also when playing > with others - or while looping - yourself. Think about counterpoint, > contrast, expectation and delaying expectation. Listen to some Bach - > read a classic theory book and see how you can subvert or use the old > forms to create new music. > > If you listen to Kurt Schwitters' Ursonate > (http://www.ubu.com/sound/ursonate.html > ) - I love Jaap Blonk's version - you get a sense just how powerful > form is. Also interesting to think that this was done in 1932 in terms > of the experimental music thread. In fact I would call this an > experiment in the power of form. > > All the best, > > Stefan > > --------------------------------------- > www.kenaxis.com > > > -- The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com