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Hi Todd sorry, took a while to get back to you... I'm posting this also for the benefit of others on the list, hope you don't mind. > I'm real tempted to go the hardware route > Although I do have to buy more components I think I could get an > rc-50, reverb, delay effects for a 1000 which seems like is the > minimum just to get a laptop.... Well, do you really save that much - or at all? Let's compare - assuming your need for one mono instrument: LAPTOP SETUP (minimum): ca. 1400,- EUR - "old" Macbook white with Firewire (ca. 950,-EUR) - FCB1010 Midi Pedals (140,-) - Echo AudioFire 4 (290,-) RC-50 SETUP (minimum): ca. 750,- EUR - RC-50 Loop Station (370,-) - Expression Pedal, Footswitches: (>100,-EUR) - Zoom G2.1u MultiFX Pedal (140,-) - Minimixer (i.e. Mackie 402 VLZ3) (130,-) now, the RC-50 Setup is really the bare minimum. My RC-50 setup alone (without FX etc!) cost me roughly around 800,-EUR when you count all the pedals, switches, AB-boxes etc. RC-50 SETUP (with additional gear): ca. 1350,- - RC-50 (370,-) - Expression Pedals, Footswitches, Adapter cables (>200,-) - Nobels AB-V Switches (2x for stereo= 100,-) - Simple Channel Strip, i.e. Joe Meek ThreeQ (200,-) - Voicetone Create, for Reverb (230,-) - Zoom G2.1u for MultiFx (140,-) - Minimixer, i.e. Mackie 802 VLZ3 (220,-) The laptop setup described above for 1400,- EUR can do pretty much all the things as the RC-50 setup for 1350,- EUR. Here, I would definitely opt for the more flexible laptop solution - if I were to start with a new setup. I don't think MacBooks are a problem concerning memory nowadays. The old MacBook models have a pretty good price now (with firewire). Motu did have a bad reputation for PC drivers - but I haven't heard anything bad the last years and I've checked with several people selling it. I would also recommend the Echo AudioFire 4 for a cheap (even cheaper) alternative if you don't mind only 4 in/outs. Seems very stable and people like it. nice playing, btw :-) Buzap -- Ist Ihr Browser Vista-kompatibel? Jetzt die neuesten Browser-Versionen downloaden: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/browser