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| oh, the other thing i forgot to mention: generally the Avant-Garde was usually reacting against the taste of the middle class (or when we were studying the art world of Paris in the 1800's-the bourgeoisie). i suppose the correlation for music and "experimental music" is that it is generally music that has nothing to do w/ "pop music". of course these definitions and classifications shift and change w/ time. example: beatles and others using ideas of music concrete w/in the context of pop songs of the 60's or the whacko synthesizer sounds of 60's/70's becoming the "new wave or synth pop" of the 80's. and the last idea associated w/ avant-garde/modernism (in visual arts) was the idea of artists looking back a bit (borrowing or stealing from the past) to push ideas forward (my examples above)(music reference i'll give here: nirvana-how new and fresh it sounded in early 90's, but when you read some k. cobain interviews-amazing to hear the amount of pop music he was influenced by, as well as numourous underground punk bands that never saw the light of day, etc) in conclusion-i have no conclusion-just a few things i forgot. the joys of getting old. RC collier did have some good points too, and i will 2nd the idea that there is not a ranking system in art, hence the ideas of post-modernism and the downfall of the idea of originallity, as well as all the romantic ideas of the lone/brooding artist, etc....about the only ranking system is based on business scales of monetary exchange-in music-you release an album (or did in the old days), it sold x-amt, that becomes quantified by music business system, and that exists in art world too-gallery sells old painting by dead artist for x-amt of huge amt of money, etc, etc....(or the stuff that makes interesting stories-dead artist sold little to nothing in his lifetime, after death, work becomes collectable, sells a lot, ie: van gogh, reason: the viewer of his day thought that he couldn't draw very well) oh well, back to looping.... s--- |