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Hi Steven, if mobius is a bit overwhelming and you prefer hardware you might want to look at this two: http://www.boomerangmusic.com/Rang%20III.html http://www.bossus.com/gear/productdetails.php?ProductId=772 Mobius is free,excellent and very flexible but if u have never looped with an Echoplex you will need a cup of coffee and patience,download the manual,print it out and take it step by step.Start with one single track set it for 4 loops(for your arrangement parts) and switch between them,that will make you happy for days! cheers Luis www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- On Fri, 12/5/08, Steven K <makemusic44@gmail.com> wrote: > From: Steven K <makemusic44@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: Performing with Multiple Looped Sections > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Friday, December 5, 2008, 9:21 PM > Thanks, Per, and everyone else for helping me out. > > I just downloaded Mobius and got it running. I'm a bit > overwhelmed to tell > you the truth - but very excited :) I think it could be > exactly what I need. > > I plan on spending some time with the manual and figuring > things out. I'll > most likely run into some roadblocks along the way, so I > hope you guys can > help me out if I run into trouble. > > Thanks again! > > - Steven > > On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 4:21 PM, Per Boysen > <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 12:09 AM, Steven K > <makemusic44@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Per, I received a blank e-mail from you. > Wasn't sure if your message was > > > accidently deleted or not. > > > > > > ...the latest fashion in Social Networking! I'm so > in... > > > > ;-) > > > > > > > I'd love to hear your thoughts and > suggestions when you get a chance. Do > > you > > > run Mobius on its own or within a host program > like Live? > > > > Within a program not like Live: Plogue Bidule. The > reasons for using > > Bidule rather than Live are two: (1) I want to set the > tempo by the > > first loop I create - as opposed to having to start > playing in the > > tempo Live runs at (Live is a lousy slave mode tempo > follower) - and > > (2) I want to use the host as an "effect rack > router/mixer" pre looper > > and only tax the CPU with the effect chain I'm > actually playing > > through (while all others are muted until I call up > another effect > > chain). In my experience Bidule meets both these > preferences better > > than any other host. So far, this is happening in > Windows XP, and it > > is sort of my "plan B" backup looper. > > > > My Plan A main looper is Mobius standalone in Mac OSX. > I use Apple's > > MainStage as my virtual effect rack that my instrument > signal goes > > into first. From MainStage it goes out through two > physical stereo > > busses, the main house PA line and a loop-back cable > that feeds the > > MainStage output back into the laptop and into the > looper Mobuse. Then > > the loops (not my direct signal) is added to the main > house PA output. > > So I'm actually running two standalone > applications on the MacBook and > > route the signal through the first one and into the > next one. > > > > When Mobius VST becomes available I may skip over > MainSTage to build > > something similar to that application in Bidule, to > sort of repliicate > > my Mobius VST/Bidule Windows XP setup. The reason for > sticking with > > Mac is because I like the plug-ins from SoundToys. com > and from > > Michael Norris and they are not available for Windows. > > > > > And do you have > > > any knowledge of how well it runs on a Mac? > > > > Almost as good as the Windows version. Only two minor > bad sides on Mac > > so far: Sometimes when kicking in a script that is > programmed to > > launch on the next Cycle cusp the audio has a hick-up > instead of > > launching the script. But Moubius ain't stupid, he > remembers his > > precious task and launches the script on the next > Cycle cusp - not at > > all depressed by the fact that he is by then one Cycle > late. The > > other down-side on Mac (so far, all this will be fixed > soon I bet) is > > that the circling Pacman radars that indicate the > loop's position has > > been replaced by pumping color bulbs on Mac - not as > informative as > > the original Windows graphic but definitely more > trippy ;-) > > > > -- > > Greetings from Sweden > > > > Per Boysen > > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > > www.looproom.com (international) > > www.ubetoo.com/Artist.taf?_ArtistId=6550 > > > >