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Re: # delays, mods, boss, fx loops, moog... for andrew gallasch



The Boss DD 20 can do separate delays by programming two patches side by side. You set one how you like it with time, feedback, etc then when you switch it will keep going with whatever you played for as long as the feedback was set. 100% is "hold". You can then play on top of that with the second delay setting. The only thing is that you can't go back and tweak it without killing the loop. Still it's way cool. Lots more about the DD 20 at
Outside of a couple of little quirks it's not good for glitching as you say.
The DL 4 can use a really glitchable delay while looping however and it's controllable with the expression pedal. Just check out what Genie does with one! He plays it with his toes. F'in fantastic stuff.
 
Jeff
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Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 11:33 AM
Subject: # delays, mods, boss, fx loops, moog... for andrew gallasch

andrew-
the boss dd20 does do some delay that allows you 2 independent delay lines for "interesting delay use"-can't remember which mode it was (maybe the tape mode as in 2-heads on old tape machine?)
i think i tried to use it once, wasn't something that thrilled me, seemed more complicated than i was willing to mess with (i keep everything at hands reach on a table)
for glitching sounds-i thought it was pretty weak, it did not do a budget version of demo of what david torn's lexicon pcm42 unit (which my old dod d12 could do-which is why i loved that thing!)
to be fair it could kind of warble the sound, but didn't seem overly usable to me. it really wasn't doing any time pitch-shift that i wanted it to do (slow to fast or fast to slow). yes, it can do 23 sec of delay, but again, that didn't thrill me. hence i put it away when i got an older boss rc20.

a cheap option of rhythmic delays is the zoom g2-you can actually set up 3 different delays in it (they fall under different effects modes in the unit). i remember playing around w/ that a few times and got some interesting sounds/effects. especially if you set the delays short, to get rhythmic stuff going-
the bad: you can't modulate the time (so no glitching options) if you try, it just stops and resets to whatever new time you set it at, a bummer, but it is a cheap multi-effects box, and is portable.
it does have a tap tempo button, but i would guess if you're using it for live application, you'd want to save as a preset to get it set up, otherwise you'd have to set the 3 individual times, etc.
and the funny thing is: i've had the thing for 3 yrs and still like it. it has some good amp models, good effects, and some good whacky effects options (the wahs, step filter, ring mod)
good luck!
s---





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