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thanks for the response per, ill try to get more detailed- i have recently abandoned my hardware loopers and picked up mobius- now im wondering if i can ditch my sound processors and pick up mainstage / bidule =oD first of all, how are the sounds inside mainstage?? i cant find any samples of what you get with logic - would be sweet if you could actually hear some of the tones before you buy- do most of you use the presets/plugins that come with logic or do you get your own 3rd party plug-ins/instruments? i currently use 1 roland fantom XR sound module for my keyboard tones- i use another roland fantom XR sound module for my drum tones- and i use a POD x3 for my guitar/vocal sounds- is mainstage powerful enough to replace all of this?? i think this would be two software instruments and two plugins all processing at once? the keyboard would be the only one with lots and lots of patch changes, the others stay fairly placid- im worried about latency / stability in mainstage...anyone have any opinions? can you load mainstage into bidule like i can load mobius into bidule? this is what i meant by "internal patching" between mainstage and mobius - if not, is the routing in mainstage smart enough to handle multiple input/outputs from my audio interface? mic inoput, guitar input, midi input CH5, midi in CH 6 and then 8 outputs to mixer i want this to work, but cant afford to spend $2000 on a mac and $400 on logic studio to find out the tones suck and latency / stability is unacceptable =) so i rely on you guys and cannot thankyou enought for any info you have to offer thanks fro To: zonemobius@yahoogroups.com From: perboysen@gmail.com Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 09:50:50 +0100 Subject: Re: [zonemobius] Mainstage + Mobius + External mixer latency/monitoring issues?
On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 5:19 AM, J Johans <parispro00@hotmail. __._,_.___
> srry if this is a double post for anyone > I dunno if anyone is using a similar setup- but theoretically, can anyone > forsee any blatent latency / monitoring issues with the following..? > External keyboard -----> in mainstage (for sounds) --------> mainstage out > to CH 1 & 2 external mixer -------> Mixer Aux out into Mobious --------> > mobius out into CH 3 & 4 external mixer > Mobius would be set to mute input signal. > I would use CH 1 & 2 of the mixer to hear what im playing, and CH 3 & 4 to > hear what is looped > since the signal is traveling through my audio interface 4 different > times...and being processed by the CPU 4 times....should i expect to have an > unacceptable latency? Not sure what you mean by "latency". If you mean your direct input signal being delayed I'm afraid there is no way of minimizing it by different routing, except for routing the direct signal directly to the PA. Effects do delay a signal. If you mean the audio that are being looped it should be easy to fix that "latency" by tweaking Mobius settings for latency compensation. This comensation meanst that you tell Mobius how much an audio signal is being delayed by the AD conversion and effect processing so Mobius can move each new overdubbed layer a bit earlier in the loop - in order to make it musically line up with earlier audio layers so it will play back as you did play it live. (BTW, I use the same routing as you, but with two mono cables instead of the mixer) > i would think there is a way to route mainstage to mobius internally to > reduce latency, but im not sure if this will work in my setup.. Hmm.... "Internally" then on a Bus in Mobius? If this assumption is correct you have only one way to route audio to the plug-in, by the bus send knob on the channel script. There is another way though; you can open Moibus VST on the main output of Mobius and enable "Input Monitoring" in Mobius. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom. www.ubetoo.com/  Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch format to Traditional Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe . __,_._,___ It’s the same Hotmail®. If by “same” you mean up to 70% faster. Get your account now. |