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Good one, Stan. Check out this church: http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/08_01/germanbeachR0608_800x493.jpg Go Amen Re! Kris ----- Original Message ----- > good research there Rick. > as a SUNN (amplifiers/cabinets) Worshipper i look for all things >relating > to sun sunn sunking etc. here is a good graphic of the Christianity/Sun > God connection(and a good song to boot) > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0eaWtNhdihk&feature=channel_page > s > > from a scholar I know: >>"Don't forget the root of Christmas too! December 25 is actually >>the birthday of the Persian Sun God, Mithras, not Jesus. Constantine, >>basically fabricated Christmas as part of his political strategy >>to unite the Roman Republic, because it was comprised of so many mystery >>cults, Roman gods, diverse beliefs, etc, and he needed to bring the >>people together under a common state religion. Since Constantine >>worshiped the Sun God (Sol Invictus or Mithras), he basically swapped >>birthdays, giving that birthday to Jesus, and also making the Solar >>calendar week start on Sunday (Sun = Sun God = Sol Invictus, Mithras, >>etc). People go to church today on Sunday, because of Constantine, >>though the original Christians likely worshiped on Saturday. But back to >>Christmas, people lit candles in worship of the Sun God, brought in >>trees as a part of Mithras workshop, and gave gifts as part of the >>festival in honor of the agriculture god, Saturn. Even the story of >>Jesus, the resurrection, the whole bit, is all a clone of the story of >>Mithras, which precedes Christianity by over 600 years....and it goes >>deeper into Zoroasterism, with an almost duplicate story of a man who >>was born a god-child, was sought to be destroyed by dark forces, birth >>was marked by miracles, was religiously active in his 20/30's, >>professed a belief of resurrection, judgment day, heaven and hell, >>etc....all 600-1000 years (and debatably longer) before the dawn of >>Christianity. Mithraism, the official religion of the Roman empire in >>274 CE was actually the main rival of Christianity during this time >>(4th century AD), because they were identical in many respects. >>Christianity won out because of Constantine's political campaign to unit >>the republic under one monotheistic state religion. So, Christmas is >>basically a past-together holiday of Saturn and Mithras celebrations, >>along with the Sol Invictus mystery cult" >> >> >>I had also heard that the Solstice celebration amongst many of the >>Northern shamanic tribes involved the ritual burning >>of the largest felled tree in the forest (the Yule Log) and that the >>Solstice celebration was the biggest party of >>the year. I had heard (and I don't know if this is verifiable) >>that Constantine moved the official celebration of >>Jesus of Nazareth's birth to the 25th in order to allow for these >>celebrations to continue but in a Christian way >>without upsetting all of his subjects. >> >>Fascinating stuff. I think that the cooption of myth and ritual >>happens continually with >>conquering and conquered peoples. >> >>This is highly evidenced in the African rituals that were coopted by the >>slave owners in the Caribbean and North and >>South America............. >> >>..................all a part of our sometimes violent heritage as human >>beings.................let's just hope that >>some alien race doesn't come along (ala 'Day the Earth Stood Still') and >>take us to task for >>our heritage. >> >>Peace to all of you, whatever you believe. >> >>Rick >> > >