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the one problem i have running everything on a mixer and the looper routed through the aux of the mixer is the added noise bleed on the loops from having all the channels open.because i play and sing is impossible to be reaching the mixer everytime to mute chanels and unmute them.I was just watching Howie Days videos,actually doing things with simple pedals aint such a bad idea,he has 2 pedalboards; one designated to loop and proccess his voice and the other one for guitar only,both with separate DL4s so when he loops either or he doesnt get bleeding problems and his loops sound very clean! check him out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtNDZGQNOYw&feature=related cheers www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- On Wed, 1/14/09, aaronleese@flyloops.com <aaronleese@flyloops.com> wrote: > From: aaronleese@flyloops.com <aaronleese@flyloops.com> > Subject: Re: Sooperlooper or Mobius? Going back to software. > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Wednesday, January 14, 2009, 10:08 AM > Or if you have a multi-channel input device ..... perhaps > you could run everything in through that. this way > everything has it's own channel/volume control. then > you should be able to loop any given instrument without > recording the others at the same time. > > ---------------------------------------- > From: marcus kirby <nrvana8775@gmail.com> > Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 6:55 AM > To: labaloops@yahoo.com > Subject: Re: Sooperlooper or Mobius? Going back to > software. > > I'm somewhat confused as well. Currently, I have: Rane > Line Level Mixer, Presonus Firebox, 2 amps with line out, > and a roland jazz chorus as a monitor. Is it even possible > to achieve near-zero latency? > > From what I gather though, per runs all of his signals into > different inputs of a mixer , then puts mobius in the bus of > the mixer with 100% wet signal. This way, the audio signals > of the inputs aren't affected by latency of the looper , > and the looper signal doesn't act as a 'monitor' > for the signal, whereas on an EDP you can hear the incoming > audio at the same time. > > On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 7:52 AM, L.Angulo > <labaloops@yahoo.com> wrote: > > oh,wait a minute,i use a mixer and put mobius or the EDP in > the monitor send and return to a channel,when you say you > put loopers on a submix bus and set to no dry signal is your > sound sorce like guitar being output also on the same > channel as the looper is? can you develop a little maybe i > am doing something wrong,but the EDP seems a bit more > responsive,i take it you are using a mixer correct? > > cheers > > Luis > > > > > > However, I never play through neither the EDP nor > Mobius. I > > > always put > > > loopers on a submix bus and set to no dry signal. Even > if > > > latency > > > figures are fine I don't like aspects of the > sound > > > getting lost when > > > playing through certain circuits. > > > > > > Greetings from Sweden > > > > > > Per Boysen > > > www.boysen.se > > > www.perboysen.com > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 2:22 PM, L.Angulo > > > <labaloops@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > per, > > > > have you ever tested the latency between the EDP > and > > > Mobius?or anyone outhere?