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Hey Ricky > sort of http://www.rickygraham.net/2009/graham_edp_180109.avi Yes, that's it!! :-) I guess my affinity to that approach comes from my very first looper: The Zoom SampleTrak 224: http://www.samsontech.com/products/relatedDocs/st224.jpg http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/jan99/articles/zoomsample695.htm You had 3 Banks of 8 samples that you could record. Then you could either trigger them directly or loop them. You could also arrange playback with the built-in sampler. With MIDI-IN you could trigger each sample via keyboard. It would even automatically pitch shift a sample and assign it as a major scale to all 8 buttons of a bank... It can auto-sync two samples either by time-stretching or pitch-shfiting... With the built-in effects, resampling etc. it was a beautiful tool... I wish they had it in 44,1kHz quality (it was only 32kHz and you feel it). Actually, setting up the SampleTrak together with Ableton (which was not available 10 years ago ;-) best regards Buzap -- Psssst! Schon vom neuen GMX MultiMessenger gehört? Der kann`s mit allen: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/multimessenger