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I'm looking forward to Expo '74 2009 "the first user conference exclusively devoted to sharing knowledge about Max/MSP/Jitter" http://www.expo74.net/ I went to a Max users conference at the San Francisco Exploratorium with David Zicarelli many years ago and enjoyed it. This sounds like it will be several orders of magnitude better. Just curious, any loopers out there who know they are presenting? -- Art Simon simart@null.net myspace [dot] com/artsimon