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Fantastic! I'm listening to the first track now with a big grin on my face. You've got me hooked already. wonderful stuff. Steve Steve Moyes www.stevemoyes.org.uk www.creativemusic.org.uk www.creativemusic.blip.tv ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim Goodin Jeff and anyone else who tries, I didn't realize it was that painful as I've used this before but it's a bit to go through so I just discovered how I can make them public better for non-DBer's so here you go. These should work...