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Great stuff, Rick, thanks. Hotels and food on the road is what really kills the budget. I go to great lengths to find people to crash with (and to be a good guest which is my nature anyway), and then usually buy some groceries at a supermarket to make a big breakfast and pack a lunch before hitting the road in the morning. Jars of Nutella and peanut butter, a loaf of bread, and some cans of tuna will last in the car for a while, and can serve to plug the belly between crash pads. Speaking for the States, I rent cars all the time. A single taxi fare in an urban area often costs as much as a day or even two days' rental, and terminals are never close to gigs, so I've chosen to avoid the bus/train route, though I don't like the environmental impact of a single-person passenger vehicle. I pick up hitchhikers (can't help it...used to be one) and they'll often kick in a bit for gas which helps. When renting cars, make sure to check all the major sites (Hertz, Dollar, Alamo are usually the best, though Budget and National can be good too) and visit their separate "specials" or "hot deals" page. If you just plug in your dates, you won't get their best sales, you need to see their specials page and get a code. When flying, I bring my heaviest gear on board with me. Airlines are still pretty lax about carry-on luggage, and though they say one "luggage" piece plus one bag or similar, I always bring a huge laptop bag stuffed with cables, plus two different shoulder bags with my four-tracks and a dictaphone and punch-in pedals, plus my travel guitar in its gigbag w/adapters and pedals in the pocket, and usually a plastic bag full of food and extra cords, too. Security will usually be confused by my tape decks and all the cables, but they never put everything all together to weigh it, and nobody seems charged with the responsibility of counting individual pieces, especially when they're oddly shaped. When I do have to stay in hotels, I always drive an hour or more outside of the big cities, the hotels along the highway are far cheaper than ones in town. For my summer tour, which is my most ambitious one so far (aiming for 50 dates), I'm considering packing a cheap tent and spending the evening in a state park campground for a couple of nights in places where I don't have contacts, rather than dropping $60-80 for a hotel. Security of gear and self is always top priority of course, which might outweigh the savings...we'll see. Oh yeah - and pack the minimum amount of clothing, all black to hide the dirt! seriously, I never pack more than a weeks' worth, people frequently offer to throw my few things in with a load of their family's wash. And small-town laundromats are cheap. Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com > Any other nuggets of wisdom that people have found regarding things to > make touring less expensive?