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Hi Per, Thanks for answering - there are a couple of things getting confused. I am *successfully* using the Live Looper to set the tempo for both Live and MS. I was unable to get an AU within MS - either SooperLooper or Mobius, tried both - to send clocks that didn't crash MS, although i don't think i tried to *explicitly* send the clock output to the IAC bus (which you can do with Mobius but not SL, i believe). I found that I was able to run SL within MS for a while, but as soon as i opened max and an "rtin" object, MS crashed. every time. i may go back and try the explicit clock output mapping from Mobius. Warren On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 2:50 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote: > On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 7:32 PM, Warren Sirota <wsirota@wsdesigns.com> >wrote: >> all i want to do is to have >> the first loop send midi clocks that the daw uses to set tempos for >> delay-time synching, triggering midi drum patterns and arpeggiator >> rates. i only need 1 clock stream, but it has to come from the looper. >> somehow, per does this wo crashing mainstage, but i've not been able >> to get ms to play nice at all. > > > Hi Warren, > > I don't remember what looper plug-in you are using, but set it to > output its MIDI Clock to the OS X Iac bus. Then set both MainStage and > Live to slave sync to IAC Bus input. > > Over here that works well, even though I have not tried running both > Live and MainStage at the same time. > > Another concept would be to use Live's Looper as the the tempo setting > device. I'm not sure if that's what you are doing, but if you do it > means Live is the master for MainStage. You should still set Live to > send out MIDI Clock through an IAC bus in order to have MainStage > following the tempo (set that by checking the box "Get tempo from MIDI > input" in the Concert Inspector window as you have selected the > concert level at top of the Patch List) > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > > -- Warren http://www.ubetoo.com/Artist.taf?_ArtistId=6679 http://www.warrensirota.com