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cheers Jeff, that looks pretty good, http://www.wavosaur.com For anyone into free VST plugins, navigate to their VST-Plugins section where they list a whole load of free stuff. andy Jeff Duke wrote: > I found this and was kind of amazed. The program itself is half the size > of the PDF manual. > http://www.wavosaur.com > > DAW 540kb > PDF 750kb > > It actually works pretty well. Midi, vst support, some separate channel > editing, skins, oh, and of course loop mode! I haven't really tested it > much. There is some pretty bad spelling in the manual. > > > Jeff > > >