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> Thanx for this info Rainer we need more traveling threads like this! > i am not really sure but i thought i read sometime you been changing >looping software lately are u using mobius as your main looper? Thanks, Luis. Regarding your question: I don't know where you read that ;). Fact is, I have been considering switching my entire musical framework away from what I use now (basically Ableton Live as a software mixer/VST host with Mobius as the main looper and a bunch of other VST/Live effects) to something more flexible, and while I've been thinking about using PureData, I've yet to even start doing a first setup of it. The reason for that idea is that with the change from my slightly more song-oriented live programme (working title "loop4life"), which I did at the Y2k6loopfest and also on my "Weird Specialist" album, to the trombone-centered programme (working title "Rübezahl"), as found on my "Wie groß ist die Luft ?" album from my last tour [see the jamendo link below for these albums], a lot of the functions provided by Ableton Live are no longer of use to me and, on the other hand, the flexibility in automation, routing and processing which is promised by more "abstract" platforms like MAX/MSP or PureData is lacking in Live. To cut a long story short: this is rather a big step to take - perhaps later on ;). But in the meantime, I wait for the release of Live 8, which seems to contain some functionality of MAX/MSP, so this may just be the step in between for me. I'm curious myself: while I've noticed you as an EDP user in the past, just recently you had a lot of trouble with IEEE1493 and the like - have you moved to Mobius as well? Cheers, Rainer http://moinlabs.de http://www.myspace.com/moinlabs http://video.google.de/videosearch?q=moinlabs http://www.jamendo.com/en/artist/straschill/ http://Kunaki.com/MSales.asp?PublisherId=117329