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that sound like something ive been wanting to do for a long time yet there is something missing... yes David let us know it sounds really exciting!! cheers Luis > > Hm. Scripting in Mobius... sounds complicated but what > isn't? I feel there's got to be a great solution in here for > me (finally). The second I opened up Mobius (just now) and > saw those familiar EDP functions I knew it was a missing > piece of the puzzle.. > > Between Mobius, Ableton Live 8, and Mainstage for software > with a Rocktron Midi Mate foot pedal for starting and > stopping RMX parts individually as well as the EDP-like > Mobius functions, a GCP for Live clip/sceen functions (now > that there's a Bome's midi translator for mac), the x-tempo > POK for various things like arrows, copy/paste, and > duplicate functions where it makes sense (so I don't have to > bank up and down all the time)---I think I'll finally be > able to really nail my system down: > > --- Stylus RMX (along with others, but RMX as the base) for > drums with independent parts stopped and started via feet. > (I think RMX is acceptable live if it's played like an > instrument w/ the feet.) > --- Trilogy (and logic sound modules if using Mainstage) > via EWI or Midi Guitar for bass (or a real bass ) layered > over the drums > --- Then guitar, vocals, sax, or midi sounds from NI Kore, > Motu's Symphonic or Ethno instruments (among others) layered > over the bass and drums. > --- And, Livid Union with the Ohm controller and x-tempo > POK (and sometimes EWI and Midi Guitar) for live video > trigger/manipulation. > > Missing components were getting Stylus RMX to be foot > controlled, Bome's Midi Translator for mac and the > x-tempo-POK to ease foot control set up, and Mobius/Live8 > for true software looping functionality. All coming together > now... it has to be. > > I think we're a few months away from a demo of some sort, > people!... once I get everything playing well together. > > (I'm excited so I thought I'd share.) When I truly figure > out the best set up and work flow (hardware, software, and > musically speaking) I will pass it on in full detail. > > > > > On Apr 6, 2009, at 3:27 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > > > On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 12:01 PM, David Hayes <stringfling@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Thank you so much for your time. The main thing I > was looking for was a way > >> to Loop with Stylus RMX as the basic drum part, > taking the drum parts in and > >> out with my footswitch and always being in time. > All with the same basic > >> work flow as an EDP. Ability to set loop tempo > with first phrase would be a > >> nice extra but not so important. > > > > Ah... now we're talking! RMX is awesome, but I would > guess that any > > host slaving to MIDI Clock is not rhythmically stable > enough for RMX > > (please note this is a guess - if you are interested > you should really > > try it out to see if it works). RMX has always been > stable for me when > > the host is the sync master. > > > > Slave syncing Loopers: I've been jamming with other > musicians when we > > were all using EDP's and the only down side is that > you may have to > > wait for the on-beat when laying down your first loop > (I sometimes > > created a silent first loop, in the Brother Sync > network, and then > > filled it up with my playing, just to avoid bumps). > It's just that for > > the solo concerts I do it makes for a way better > performance if never > > having to watch the scrreen or wait for a cue... just > get up there and > > start playing, sort of. And I never use "drums" live > if there is not a > > drummer (laptopper or skin basher) on stage to play > with me ;-)) > > (but I really love RMX for studio work!!!! Especially > 1.7 for odd > > measures) > > > > About MIDI Clock: After all it is a subversive > catch-up game. The sync > > slave never really realizes that it is too fast or too > slow until it > > has already crossed the line and has to start > adjusting to compensate > > for its mistake. And then it makes the same mistake > from the other > > direction... and vice versa... for eternity. TAlk > about a "miserable > > loop"! Good thing machines and software don't have > feelings - they > > would instantly implode into depression ;-) > > > > I use the host application for synced delays, reverb, > synced tremolo > > or filter sweeps. For effect add-ons like those I the > rubber band > > timing of a MIDI Clock sync is good enough. But for > hard on-the-beat > > sequencing of loop mangling I go for scripting in > Mobius. The reason > > is that this will then be done in a rock solid timing > > > > Per > > > >