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On Apr 10, 2009, at 10:19 PM, Nick wrote: > if so, how would i go about doing that? Some mixers and some amps have fx loop i/o and there are stand alone passive line level shifters. So it would be comp>mixer>kp3>mixer>comp But you may not need that. Are you using the line out and then returning on line in? If the line out is -10db then no need for a level shifter. What cables are you using? Might be worth trying 1/8 to 1/8 mono cables with 1/4 and rca adapters Sorry I am not familiar with firebox. You may need to check the mixing software to see if routing is ok and no pads active so the line i/o are getting full signal. And there may be a way to tweak the routing in LIVE - are you putting the KP return on its own track? Not clear what instruments you are trying to effect, but as you know, some of the kp3 patches have tone, frequency or cutoff as part of the x/y so that can attenuate the signal, you may need to adjust the fx depth or wet/dry mix and some patches may not be useful or only partially useful for what you are trying to do. You might try using the Main out rather than the line out in which case you will need a level shifter, then return the signal on line in. Or you can try: line out to kp > kp headphone out to > line in or perhaps even route back into a front panel jack. There are a lot of variables to play with. BobC