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The M-13 has twice the loop time as the DL-4, 28 seconds, or 56 at half speed. Maximum delay time for the delay models themselves are 2000 ms, but you can use any delay model and as many as four delays simultaneous with the looper with the capability of putting the loop pre or post the other delays. I've blabbed extensively about this unit, so check the archives and I have a few posts on You tube demoing it as well, this clip will lead you to the others http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zz47SBYcxgs&feature=related. Bill -----Original Message----- From: Scott Drengsen [mailto:kungha@earthlink.net] Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 10:20 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: M13 delays Does the M13 have longer delay times then the DL-4 ??