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I just downloaded Matthias's ChoPitch because I'm look for a good pitch shifter but Live 8 won't recognize the vst plugin. Live 8 sees my other vst's just fine (Mobius, reaktor, etc.) I moved it in the same folder with my other vst's, library/audio/plug-ins/vst Can anyone else with this plug and Live 8 confirm this? Thanks, Todd On May 7, 2009, at 1:53 AM, Rick Walker wrote: > Dear Erdem, > > I second Buzaps glowing review of Melodyne. > You can do really interesting things with that program > and they even give you the ability to extract some 'fixed > frequencies' from > manipulated tracks and pitch them separately from the pitch content > of the vocals > (this works fantastically on percussion by the > way..............creating naturalistic > percussion tracks that feel, nonetheless, that they are from some > ethnic culture from > another planet: alien , yet organic.............one of my > favorite qualities of new sound design. > > Additionally, here are several thoughts I've had about vocal use > and vocal manipulation: > > > 1) Take a look at the old stalwart, ReCycle, which was the > program that caused the revolution > in Drum and Bass.............designed to slice up drum tracks and > then send each 'slice' to > a sampler in a numbered and ordered set of samples that can then be > retriggered in a midi program. > You can also set your own slice points manually in such a program. > > Sometimes it is really cool to just take the very beginnings and > endings of words, cut them up and separate them > from the words they came from and put them in in unusual places > during and over the track. > > 2) A lot of breath noises, ticks, inhalations, lip smacks, etc. > can be fascinating spices for an unusual vocal track > used as rhythmic elements outside of their normal context. > > 3) Tuareg is a wonderful standalone app for the PC that does very > hip slicing and dicing of vocal tracks. > Buy the $35 version and be glad you did. You'll thank me for this > one! > > 4) Our very own Matthias Grob and Andy Butlers' ChoPitch is a > fantastic manipulator of vocal tracks. > I can't more highly recommend it. > > 5) You might reference the all acapella vocal CD I put out called > Faux Voix. > _* > http://www.looppool.info/fauxvoix.html*_ > > The whole record is just an experimental exploration of vocals and > computer generated vocals. > I also really worked hard for almost two years to develop a whole > new series of > 'extended' vocal techniques, many of which I used on that record. > > 6) Heres' a vocal slice experiment from that recording: > _* > http://www.looppool.info/Chris_Slice_Funk.mp3*_ > > By saying this, I'm saying, use your own voice and see what odd > things it can do. > If you get over the weird feelings and the strange looks you get by > making unusual sounds, there are > hundreds of interesting sounds that can be made with the human voice > and most people > don't do it because it is too 'strange' for normal society. > > The beauty of all of these experiments is that all of these sounds > are made with the vocal chords, the uvula, the lips, the teeth, > the tongue and all the combed frequencies that one can achieve with > these sounds because our throat is , essentially, a pipe. > > 6) I experimented with uvulal singing, overtone singing, noise > manipulation, hum whistling, whistle humming (there is a > difference, lol), > trill singing, chest beaten harmonic manipulation, piccolo trumpet > noises, kissing (which as Jeff Kaiser hipped me to, is high velocity > inhalation, the opposite of how a trumpet is played), warble > singings, physical object manipulation of voice (singing in and > through things > that effect the sound), growling, humming, trilling, etc. > > Here's an example of a live thing I did in concert from the > Festival of Voice and Electronics utilizing some of those techniques. > Everything you hear was made live in concert using only my voice. > _* > http://www.looppool.info/Faux_Voix_Composite.mp3 > > *_ > 7) There are VST instruments out there that mimic the vocal formant > frequencies of the human voice so that if you put > other melodic material through it, it sounds LIKE a voice. > > 8) Vocoders also have this voice-esque quality on anything. > > Try Vocoding a different vocal..........in other words, use the > voice to vocode a sample of a voice. > You can get really cool results from trying to sing to lyrics in the > exact same rhythm, but sing them with > radically different styles or in different ranges.............then > vocode one with the other. > > 9) Then there is the processing of the > voice...............................I won't even go > there........this post would go on forever. > > 10) Our own Cara Quinn hipped me to software that 'reads' websites > to blind people. > I did a couple pieces using that software. She and I used to > exchange vocal generated compositions. > One piece of software gave one the ability to download different > voices from different cultures > (the Brazillians pronounce Rs like Hs while the English pronounce > Rs like, well, Rs) > Many different cultures have radically different consonant sounds > and different phonemic combinations vowel sounds. > > As an example, in Korean, there appears some syntactical rule that > says , when you end a word with a long held out vowel sound > that the pitch will pend down at the end of the word. > > Vowels representing combed filtered sine waves and Consonants > representing various percussive and noise sounds, > I typed hundreds of vowel combinations to try and extract simple > melodies from them. > I snipped anything that sounded melodic (like when you ask a > question in English, the pitch goes up at the end of the question > so it > represents a simple melody, pitchwise) and put them in a folder. > > Later I went back and put many of them together to compose my > melodies. > Here's an example of that experiment: > > _*http://www.looppool.info/Sweeping_Mary.mp3 > > *_11) Also reference Michiko Kawagoe's brilliant work with an > invented computer vocal languages > > > > Okee dokee, ..............these are the thoughts I've been having > and wanting to write to you since I read your > question to the group. > > be well, and good luck with the project..........congratulations! > > yours, Rick >