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I wanted to add a couple of things to Rainers review, first is Stickam. My son has been using it with his band for live stuff for awhile. I have not tried Stickam but it seems to be on a line with ustream and justin not just for "video group chat application" as Rainer stated. I have not tried it so i am not sure if it has the higher quality FME capability. You can check out my son "Vlad" and the gang here http://vampyre.org/vampyre-live He is the lead guitarist btw! Sorry for the shameless promotion but that's my boy! The other thing I will add is that in order for me to do the justin/ninjam thing with Rainer I had problems in that I was at 90% + cpu with Ninjam, the FME and the browser window opened. He suggested that I close the browser and it worked much better. The only thing being is that I can't see him which is ok in that we are playing music and not acting anyway right? Obviously I just need another machine for part of this operation. More bandwith is always good anyway but I am able to run both on a 650 upstream connection as long as I have the video qualities set properly and the browser window closed. Still experimenting on this part. Looking forward to the Matt Stevens and Jim Goodin shows Sunday and David Cooper Orton on Tuesday, David is sounding great in his test run! http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/1478760 And me? I will be jumping in soon I promise. I am practicing, sheesh! peace, Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rainer Straschill" <moinsound@googlemail.com> To: <loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com> Sent: Friday, May 08, 2009 11:35 AM Subject: That ustream again - and other stuff > So that ustream thing is catching on rather quickly (I think it was > Jim who said "that's the new youtube" or something), so I'm wondering: > > What are your experiences with it, or with other similar services, and > how do they compare? > > I have been exchanging ideas with fellow list member Jeff Duke, and we > also did a (successful) test run combining justin.tv and Ninjam. The > general summary of our experiences (in a nutshell): > > There are four services known to us for video streaming: ustream, > justin, mebeam and stickam. > > It seems that ustream and justin are made for broadcast, while stickam > and mebeam focus on the video group chat application. > > Both ustream and justin allow you to use FME (standalone free flash > media encoder) to work together with their service. However, the > implementation is different: while with justin it's sufficient to just > connect to your stream with FME, with ustream you need to logon, open > a broadcast concole, have that pickup the FME stream and work from > there. > > Ustream has some stability issues in that configuration and will often > not start up properly. (Which is a pity, because it's the only way to > get stereo audio). > > Ustream has that cool "co-host" feature. A workaround: with justin, > you can just take several widgets of individual streams and combine > them on one web page (successfully tested). > > At least ustream and justin.tv have problems with some browsers (most > specifically IE). > > Summarizing, here's a quote from a message I sent to Jeff: > Main Goal HQ Video possible Stereo Audio stable co-host > ustream broadcast X (w FME) - X > justin broadcast X (w FME) X - > stickam vchat - - ? - > mebeam vchat - - ? - > > MY QUESTIONS TO YOU: > > 1. alternatives to these services which allow for combining video > feeds? (With the exception of that, justin really works fine for me) > 2. your experiences using ustream with FME (please also mention platform) > > Thanks, > > Rainer > >