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On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 10:49 AM, Simeon Harris<simeonharris40@googlemail.com> wrote: > what's producing the pitch shifted delays? Actually, that kind of effect sound can be set up by signal routing in any host app (or cable spaghetti on the stage floor if using hardware): - From the source sound channel, send signal (by an aux send knob) to effect channel A. - On effect channel A; open a pitch shifter and a delay set to only wet/fx through-put. Order doesn't matter. From this effect channel, send signal (by an aux send knob) to effect channel B (but keep effect channel A's output going to the master sum output. - On effect channel B; send signal (by an aux send knob) back to effect channel A (thus creating a feedback loop that passes through the delay and pitch shifter). I've done this trick from the early eighties by using a rack mountable harmonizer plus digital delay, then in a rack mountable Eventide Eclipse as well as TC Electronix FireworX and in recent times inside software as Logic, Ableton Live and Bidule. Plug-ins like Expert-Sleeper's Cross Fade Loop Synth and SoundToy's Crystallizer already include the typical signal path above. It's more fun to set up the complete signal addressing system from scratch, but if you decide to do that you really have to make sure the delay unit is not set to let through dry signal - or you might fry your ears or audio interface with in-the-box audio feedback. Per