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G wrote: > At a guess maybe headphone signal level is classed as > line level - anyone who knows better please jump in. > Well, it *is* possible to make an output that will both work at line level and also drive a set of head-phones. ...but usually a line level output just can't supply the power to drive the phones. Not surprising if you consider that headphones are just small speakers. A lot of cheap devices use have a headphone socket that doubles as line out...can be a source of low quality signal. It's also possible, like in the old Lexicon JamMan to have a hi-fi line level out that will work with phones, but if a device doesn't claim to drive headphones it's very unlikely that it will. andy