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Hi Paul, I have owned Kontakt for many years. Bought it back in 2003 in order to achieve 5.1 surround effect instruments, since that wasn't yet implemented in Logic back then. I also have Reason 3. Kontakt offers a lot better fidelity than Reason, that's the first thing I want to state! Comparing these two is not really fair I think, Kontakt is just playing in a much higher division. I have not upgraded to Kontakt 3 but am still using Kontakt 2.2.4.001, because from what I heard the most significant difference in Kontakt 3 is that it comes with a very big "meat and potato" sample library. And that's exactly what I don't need as much as I need free hard disc space to record to ;-)) As for sample instruments I already have the few I want to use, and it seems that the sampler functionality in K3 is not much better then in K2. Okay, the next statement needed here is that Kontakt is a damn great sampler! Probably the best available. In the past it could interfere with limited CPU recourses of your computer, but that has changed as we all now. For a while I did not use Kontakt because I felt sick knowing about NI's licensing regulations, but I'm happy to notice the company has totally changed that now. You can now change computer and move the software license with you to the new machine. No iLok support yet AFAIK. Some orchestral sample patches that come with Kontakt are from the Vienna STrings series and they sound awesome! I've heard, from folks that own the real Vienna package, that the difference is not the samples but the big amount of multi sound instrument patches you get in the Vienna box. For example all kinds of layers set up in a smart way like having normal violin section tone and fading into tremolo or drill tone section by the modulation wheel - etc, etc... Seems the original Vienna box is perfect for media composers that spend months churning out orchestra-in-a-box music for video games and stuff. If you want just the great orchestral sound they sound just as good in Kontakt. The effects in Kontakt are also very good. I've used it lately for playing EWI by MIDI in a Bidule hosted livelooping rig and then I could route all kind of feedback machine effects within my individual Kontakt patches. Very cool and useful IMHO. It has good compressors, distortion, delays, reverb, phaser and a lot more. And you can route effects as insert or as send-return loops. Kontakt 3 also has a better support for fixed micro tunings than before, another good thing IMO. Finally, Kontakt can import patches from most other samplers on the market. You will rarely be "on the wrong platform" for buying whatever sample library you may want in the future. Personally I wish there was an even cheaper deal that would let you buy Kontakt 3 without that extensive sample library. It's a lot of good and top quality sounds but only "those usual" sounds. Great value for a pro media music composer and producer, though. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com On Sun, Jul 5, 2009 at 8:35 PM, paul<phaslem@wightman.ca> wrote: > Ok, I'm pretty ignorant about sample players but I have played some of >the > instruments through Reason and they sound pretty darn good, notably the > cello, bassoon and clarinet. So I wondered if anyone can say how the >samples > in Kontakt 3 compare? I was getting ready to purchase a copy of Reason >but > with this sale on NI Komplete, I may go that way instead, but the main > reason I'd get it at the moment would be to access these sorts of >samples. > > Paul Haslem > Ontario, Canada > www.dulcify.ca