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INteresting reading. Thanks for everyone posting! Lately I have noticed, to my big surprise, that people at my gigs think I am classically trained. This totally wrong. My "instrument of the day", the alto flute, I actually bought just four years ago to start using particularly with looping. However... ...like classical players I do practice a lot. But I don't practice playing particular pieces. I practice what I call "instant composing". It's the technique to improvise musical structures that lock in over time, as opposed to the kind of improvisation where you "react to sound in the moment" . You train your mind to spread out into the future and into the past and you learn to see a chain of moments as one unified process. And this process doesn't flow in one direction, it is more like a sea than a river. Technically you have to explore all relations between melodies, scales, chords and in live looping particularly parallel transposition. A musical parallel transposition happens when you speed shift a chord. Depending on being a minor or major chord it brings certain implications for how you can go melody-wise with it. And the transposed interval also affects rhythm since the loop goes faster if speeded up (in pitch) and slower if slowed down (in pitch). This was just the short version, but my point is that by exploring how all these parameters relates musically you can develop a paradigm for your expression. Oddly, it really is discipline that can set you free. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com