Re: why we founded this list

[Jim Goodin <jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com>]

Thanks Matthias.  For someone like myself who hasn't the history with
this list or looping for that matter this is a very helpful and
informative read.  The history of you. Kim and others mentioned is
amazing.  On a level one could say out of the recent tension comes
release and positive energy such as your post.  Thank you.

Jim

On 7/19/09, Matthias Grob <matilists@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi
> I don't post here very often any more, but I did a lot in the past and
> I consider myself one of the founders of this list.
> List owner Kim does not seem to be much interested in looping any more.
> My interest always was of a deeper nature and I think I brought the
> initial spiritual content.
> I was fanatic and I still think of livelooping as a healing method and
> would like to improve the world with it.
> In 1992, when I wrote the folder for the LOOP delay, the first
> dedicated livelooping tool, I started the "loop groop" as "Forum for
> loopology and repetitive hapenings" and defined its purpose as:
> "Exchange of ideas about composing, recording and distribution of loop
> music.
> Establishing a place for it in the media and in the record market.
> Simplification of development and distribution of specific equipment.
> A record label ?
> A specifically equipped studio ?"
> The "condition of membership" I imagined as:
> "Introduction of a loop music recording or any other related work
> (like optical effects, computer programmes, special electronics,
> psychological discoveries etc). Members can receive as much
> information about the others as they present about their own work.
> Spiders handle the information exchange in the net and try to connect
> people of similar interests. "
> (I don't know how this would have been possible, I did not know about
> mailing lists at the time)
>
> When Keith discovered the LOOP delay and called me to Gibson, Kim did
> his first job as EE there and learned about looping when one of the
> units hit his lab desk to improve it! So we worked together on the EDP
> long before we worked on the promotion. And when the web became
> spread, he knew how to setup a site and a mailing list and did it his
> way...
>
> Thats why I still feel a fatherly responsibility to support this
> movement until it grows by itself and the information about the deeper
> use of looping tools becomes spread.
> We are not there yet as I want to discuss below.
>
> Some hours ago, I was going to answer a mail from Rick about the
> festivals and once again thought about what has come out of this and
> where we are heading for. I thought about it almost every day since
> 1986, and since february, I am writing on the livelooping theory, and
> collect videos on youtube and discuss strategies with the most
> involved looping friends.
> So Marks post makes me say something about it all to all.
>
> This paragraph is about the personal situation, you can skip it:
> I am a true friend of the Walker brothers and I also had a good time
> with Mark when we have been neighbours for some fantastic coincidence,
> when I lived in Gary Halls house on Alameda island. (Gary is one of
> the fathers of livelooping, now retired in Tailand)
> Mark and me did not maintain contact, so we may not be friends in the
> closers sense - thats live as he said correctly. He is an intense
> poster with strong opinions, honest but sometimes hard...
> I would love Bill and Rick even if I thought of their festival as
> useless or whatnot. its love, I find them of the most good willed and
> tender and talented persons I ever met!
>
> To question the festivals and the group purpose here:
> Why do we do all this?
> There is a big deep question why we like to play music and why looping
> is even more fun, we discussed this over years and I am trying to
> write an abstract about it, just wait, I will want to discuss that,
> too, but now its about playing live:
>
> Most of us don't want to make a living or become famous, but have fun
> and grow with their music and get a feedback from some listeners
> sometimes. Some enjoy the exchange of this music and fascination so
> much that they buy over sees tickets to get to the meetings - thats an
> amazing power! It helps to make the festivals days of big expectations
> and joy and the festivals I attended were completely dominated by
> love, tenderness and spirituality.
> So there is not the slightest doubt that the festivals are useful and
> should go on and we can only be very thankful to Rick and all the
> other organizers for their huge effort to make it happen.
>
> Still, some of us also want to make it a living. For them it would be
> great if the public would come to the festivals and the producers of
> events and movies and such would call them up and say: "we decided
> that some livelooping music fits our production best, can you do it?"
> And those producers would like to just write "livelooping" on their
> banner and get the house full of livelooping fans.
> So how and when can we get there?
>
> Anyone is free to say on this list that they don't like to travel or
> play live or exchange their music and only want to exchange tech infos
> or have fun... but it may not be very useful...
> ... or don't you agree that this list should mainly serve for those
> who do want to play in public and spread their music?
> ... or should we create a separate list for the professionals?
>


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