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On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 7:18 AM, AKIM TRIEBSCH<atriebsch@yahoo.com> wrote: > > You people were funny at first but now your guffaws of snobbery and >elitist technocratic >behaviour are really starting to take their >toll...I mean what are "we" about here....does it have >anything to do >with making music? I am starting to wonder...I guess it has become >>unfashionable among the "Technocrati" to loop with a BOSS pedal...hmmmmm One thing I've found that no matter what list you subscribe to, or forum you frequent, people form camps around what gear/software they use. I find it silly. Loopers-Delight was started by Oberheim Echoplex users and was really heavily biased toward it back in the day. I think people will belittle other people's tools because it's a way of justifying their own choices and the coorasponding investment. If you're making better music with your $500 Boss pedal (is that cheap? I don't think so...) than they are with their $1500 Looperlative, you can imagine someone might feel threatened or silly for their choice and try to slight yours. Hell, one of the more memorable looping performances I've seen was Matt Divingon (sp?) and two cheap delay stomp boxes. > > looping is just a means to an end!...or is it just a means to an end in >itself?.. What, are you hanging out with Robert Fripp? ;) >if that is the case then you can just go on and loop yourselves into a >frenzy until you become >dizzy with your own self indulgent misery...I >mean really!...This loop competition is a good >thing...why not? Take it >or leave it....so what if BOSS is sponsoring it?....they make very >>inexpensive loopers, so why shouldn't they have a boss loop competition >festival? IF you want >to be such a rebel then bring your looperlative >or your echoplex to the competition....that is if >they even decide to >invite you. Of course it's a good thing. A great thing really. BOSS actually has the resources to really promote loop based music, as opposed to small looper sponsored loopfests that are nothing more than looper get-togethers. Many here will talk until they're blue in the face about promoting "live looping" but I suspect that most are really more happy to be in a small club with their "secret" weapon. God forbid live looping really became mainstream and we started seeing the Jonas Brothers using it. > > As far as I can tell there isn't too much of a general difference >between most loopers....except >for this quasi-mystical time stretching >function that some of the more expensive ones >have...and some finer >details that may or may not make a difference depending on your set->up... There are quite a few differences, but the basics are mostly the same. Some couldn't do without their Line6 DL-4, others sleep with an EDP under their pillow. Both can be equally useful depending on what their owners need from them. I replaced a $1500 with a free piece of software (Mobius) but many will tell you that software looping is "less than." Whatever. > Not everyone can afford these more expensive "better" models. Hell, yes >I wish I could buy >myself a LOOPERLATIVE right now....but I can't, so >I'll have to stick with my dinky little RC->50 toy until then... ...or can afford them and choose a tool that's more to their liking. You'll always have the fetishists who'll tell you that until you have "x" you're not serious. I constantly come across the analog synth druids who will talk until their blue in the face about how no software synth comes close to a true analog synth, and then proceed to not be able to pick an analog synth out from a blind test. > So in summary...I would appreciate if people were not so quick to jump >on the slander >bandwagon and start spreading more love and less of this >cynical technocratic talk >please...music is supposed to move people and >that can be done with the tapping of a stick >on wood....and does not >require the higher echelons of technology to do it.... Good luck with that!