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Per wrote . . . > He, he... and I have sometimes been thinking that I maybe hear too much >structures in plain noise. ;-)) I find that my favorite loops are sometimes very eccentric and have a "limp" and often don't sound like they're worth even trying to play with them—but in the process of letting them cycle for awhile, I start getting used to the wobble and as I play along, I find myself adapting and finally playing fairly seamlessly over them. (No comment on my ability to do this "live"!) > Somehow I think it is not so much about talent but rather about trust >and attitude. If you trust in the process it will reward you. But if you >just feed a fraction of disbelief in your mind the music will not reveal >a structure for you to play with. Another wonderful aspect is that if you >do not try hard, a lot of elements will fall into the right places. It >really is the power of non-strength. A zen-like acceptance seems to be the most important factor for me. Doubt is the enemy. Due to situational disturbances in my life over the past decade, I've been fighting my own battles with doubt, but might just be starting to feel like I'm readu to interact more, but don't quote me on that! 8-) -- Miko Biffle Biffoz@Gmail.com "Running scared from all the usual distractions!"