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Alex Leger said: "I've got to contradict Rainer on this as I like the Roland/Boss products" You're not contradicting me at all - the fact that you like them does not in any way conflict with the fact that I don't :). Leaving my personal dislikes aside (which are mainly based on the fact that no RC looper does what I envision from a stompbox looper - the DD20 is a different beast though, and I really enjoy using it in delay mode), it's worth mentioning that: * the RC20 (or was it the RC20XL) was the first looper to feature non-volatile loop storage, * the RC2 is the looper with the smallest footprint, * the RC50 is the only stompbox looper which features multiple tracks (all of these facts to the best of my knowledge, and the ZVex Lofi Loop Junky does have a small footprint and features non-volatile loop storage and it even came before the Bosses, although I'm not sure about that detail, but then again it's not a "looper" by LD definition, as it doesn't allow for overdub). The RC series are targeted at a crowd with a very song-oriented approach, and for that they seem to work just fine, so they may work for time just the same they work for you (and lots of other people). Rainer