Re: Chinapaintin' today

["Jeff Duke" <jeff_d@embarqmail.com>]

Yeah the 2880 is a lot of fun even with the lack of features that I would 
wish for. They all (that I have tried) lack something :)

Individual control of feedback (fade) for each track would be #1 for me I 
think. In fact having each stereo pair seperated synced or not would be 
the 
ticket. I play stereo so I have two tracks. Having feedback control of the 
non active pair so it could fade while muted. I guess two 2880s would be 
the 
ticket synced with midi! Yeah! Never mind..

I agree about the reverse. I find that I don't use it alot and I think 
it's 
because the reverse envelope is just not powerful. The EH 16 sec delay was 
the best reverse envelope I have ever used also. Too bad you can't tap the 
length of the loops like the 2880. See it's always something. I do use the 
octave button on the 2880 alot though

>"Ultimately, it won't replace tape for me as I don't like the sound - it 
>too closely resembles what I put into it!"

Well you can put fx after it to where you can't even recognize yourself 
anymore of course.

Remember the 16 sec delay was nicknamed the "Fripp in a box"

I call my 2880 my Daryl in a box ;)

Hey how about feeding your tape setup into the 2880? I would love to hear 
that...

peace out,

Jeff



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Daryl Shawn" <highhorse@mhorse.com>
To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 7:55 PM
Subject: Re: Chinapaintin' today


> hey, thanks for tuning in (and saying nice stuff), Jeff!
>
> I have to say that the 2880 does pretty well in its seemingly intended 
> purpose to work like a tape machine, and a four-track at that. Pretty 
> intuitive, except that I couldn't figure out how to clear a loop - the 
>big 
> ol' button marked "New Loop" seemed to have no effect, as any previously 
> recorded stuff still remained even after clicking, holding it down for a 
> few seconds, etc. But that was easily solved just by ducking down all 
> faders except the first, clicking "Punch In" and hitting record.
>
> It replicated the basic functions I depend on - reverse, octave pitch 
> shifting, and continuous pitch shifting via the tempo slider, down two 
> octaves which bests my four-track - and most importantly, remembers what 
> you're doing so if you record two octaves down and bring it up, the 
>sound 
> is shot up two octaves, just like tape. The biggest advantage is being 
> able to do sound-on-sound, which I can't do currently w/my analog 
> machines.
>
> Ultimately, it won't replace tape for me as I don't like the sound - it 
> too closely resembles what I put into it! Ha. (I also can't manually 
>abuse 
> the tape stock for more extreme effects..). In particular, the sound of 
> the reverse isn't very satisfying, though I do like it better than the 
> reverse in the DL4. The old EH 16-second delay has the best digital 
> reverse I've heard, next to tape. Clearly it's a certain lo-fi thing I 
> prefer, and I do understand that's simple taste. All in all, I was 
> impressed by the machine and could easily use one again as a backup for 
>my 
> normal setup, it's the closest I've seen in a digital looper.
>
> Daryl Shawn
> www.swanwelder.com
> www.chinapaintingmusic.com
>
>
>> Great show! And Daryl, as I said you are a natural for that 2880. Very 
>> nice! Kudos to Chinapainting and Peter (not that one) Thorne! :)
>>
>> best,
>>
>> Jeff
>
>