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> Per Boysen wrote: > >> Also, if you listen to trance that works, there is never a repetitious >> musical phrase like your drum part that isn't modulated in slow and >> long periods in some kind of minimal manner. On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 12:11 PM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote: > hey Per, > I didn't know that, but it's really interesting. Ok, then... "rarely" would be a more appropriate word than "never" ;-)) If static repetition is happening in a mix it may often be accompanied by another sound that adds the subtle modulation part. After all, a fundamental production technique in trance techno - I would almost say the trade mark of the genre - is to apply subtle variation of timbre to parts that are musically repetitive. > > Is this a clue that listener involvement isn't helped by exact >repetition? I definitely agree with that! Exact repetition is a great component in music but should not be mistaken for "music". Spend a day out listening to a pneumatic road work drill engine for a good example: it might sound cool for a minute but then it starts repelling the listener's involvement. A shaman drumming session on the other hand is helping listener's involvement because of the subtle variations in a repetitive pattern. Does that make sense? Per