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> Are you sure Max patching or programming is needed to get into deep > control mode with this pad, just because the pads events to send > are fixed? It would depend the application you're controlling. In your example, yes you could use the top 8 buttons to select different Mobius MIDI configurations that remap the grid buttons to do different things. But you're limited to functions and scripts. If you wanted to change a continuous control like Output Level, you would have to write a script that set the level based on the note number then make 8 bindings for this script to a column of pads. You would also not get any pretty colors. The pads would all stay a dull lifeless grey, leading eventually to depression and despair. Jeff