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AG asked about branding: */" @Rick - Why did you or what was the reasoning for naming your Fest Y2K? I mean it's a cool name and all. But, to continue branding the LL thing, would it not be better to include the word in the title of your Fest?" /*Hi AG, I don't know how long you've been in the community, but if you've been on Loopers Delight for more than a few years you probably would have noticed all the posts I made about the Y2K9 INTERNATIONAL LIVE LOOPING FESTIVAL which is the official name of the looping festival. The first of this series of festivals was in 2001 but I started calling it the Y2K2 LIVE LOOPING FESTIVAL in 2002 and I believe added the INTERNATIONAL part of the moniker in 2003 as people from other countries started flying in to perform from other countries. Next years 10th anniversary and last very large festival for me will be called the Y2K-X 10th ANNIVERSARY INTERNATIONAL LIVE LOOPING FESTIVAL which is really a mouthful, but I want the nature of it (particularly the fact that we made it to 10 years with this festival) prominently in the first sentence of every press release. We decided for the website to shorten the festival name to www.Y2Kloopfest.com for ease of memory when giving the URL to someone but if you go to the website (have you ever been) it always clearly states what the name of the festival is each year. I have since day one, in point of fact since you mention branding, really pushed the notion and the actual branding of Live Looping. I've done so, specifically, because this community of musicians that has built up really do differ from the musicians (such as hip hop and other eletronica forms) who use static loops in their production and play them, pre-recorded in their performances. As a matter of course, I turn down artists who don't have a significant amount of live looping in their content each year (much to the chagrin of some artists who are dying for a gig). I've been a stickler for this 'branding' because it was the easiest way in my area to sell the idea to both the press, radio, venues and the public. It was brand new so I had to really work hard to get that particular branding out there. Now, I'm happy to say, it is completely accepted where I live (and the concept has spread to many different festivals that have occurred around the world since I started trying to promote this notion). I've been successfully involved in the promotion of several different musical movements in my long career as a professional musician and community organizer where I live. What I've found is that a brand has to be very simple and require the least amount of explanation in order for it to be accepted. It's always best whether selling a product or a notion of musical community, style or genre to include what you are doing in your brand. Working with people with no knowledge of something precludes you being able to reach them within one sentence I have found. LIVE LOOPING as a brand has worked well for me in this regard. That being said and done, we have a universal community and people have different social customs and languages in their communities. What works for me in my publicity or attempts to get this notion across to the populace in Santa Cruz which is a very hip and sophisticated town, musically speaking (hell, only 50,000 people and we've at various times had Universal Audio, EMU Systems, Antares, Cycling 74, Creative and many other innovative music companies located here) might not work, as Gareth pointed out, in Wales where he lives. Having the egalitarian approach to the festival also is a notion that is really accepted and favored where I live (close to the birthplace of the original Hippy movement in Northern California). I"ve found, in my travels and attempts at spreading this notion that a lot of Europeans just don't resonate with this concept very much..............or the ones that do seem to be in a minority from my limited experience. It's all good. It's good for me to do this festival in an idiosyncratic way. It's good for Matthias to try and get his livelooping.org and youtube live looping sites off the ground and promote the way he wants to. It's good for Sjaack to want a more exclusive and narrower stylistic focus for his wonderful Antwerp festival. Years ago, when I was more idealistic and aggressive about spreading the Live Looping vibe, I think I completely alienated one European promoter because I took him to task for not being more inclusive for the really fantastic festival he produced. I really regret that now, because I realize that one, I never wanted to alienate a fellow comrade in this work and two, because I realized that his festival really galvanized the larger European live looping community and set up , in time, all the wonderful coordinated activities that are beginning to happen in Belgium, Germany, Italy and the UK. It's all good. And quite, frankly, instead of spending so much time talking about all of this stuff, I would advise that everyone who feels passionately about it should get out and produce a regional live looping concert themselves and advertise it in WHATEVER way you want. The point is that we do something. As it was said in 'Field of Dreams',. the American magical baseball movie, "If you build it, they will come" So Check out the Y2K-X International Live Looping Festival. Check the website out. Check out the many videos on youtube and remember that Jim's touching tribute to the festival is only one of many over the years and most of them were more thorough single artist and shot in hi fidelity with hi fidelity sound. Hell, come perform at it. You'll be happy you did, I promise you. respectfully, Rick Walker ********** **********