Re: Fripp-Amplification

[<chris@christojota.de>]

Thanks ,Andy. I guess I will go for the JBL speakers.
Christo
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "andy butler" <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk>
To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2010 4:53 PM
Subject: Re: Fripp-Amplification


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> chris@christojota.de wrote:
>> What do you think about the MACKIE SRM 350 V2
>> Fullrangesystem ( 10/1", 165W RMS LF/ 30W RMS HF, 90°x 80° CD-Horn, XLR 
>> in, XLR out, Gain, Contour-Filter)?
>> Problem: no "line-in".
>
> The XLR can be used as line in.
>
>> The Mackie is a bit cheaper than the JBL. And has more power!
>
> More power doesn't always mean louder,
> and louder is usually at the expense of clarity.
> Actually the Mackie is specified as 8dB quieter than the JBL you mention 
> below.
>
> I've played through (and audienced) Mackies a lot (it's the only
> brand in Santa Cruz).
> Compared to the dire sound of the usual pa they are fantastic.
> ...but somewhat fatiguing to listen to, and their claim of
> "studio speaker quality sound" is outrageous.
> Depends what you're after, some people would call them "punchy", and 
>would 
> approve, some would call them "shouty"
> and wouldn't be so impressed.
>
>
>
>> Does  the JBL have enough power for small locations:
>
> yes
>
>> JBL EON 10 G2, aktive Fullrangebox, 10"/1", Bi-amp 125W/50W, 1 Mic/line.
>
> what I have is the original Eon 15P-1 ,
> very natural sounding, though probably not easy to obtain these days.
> I haven't heard the newer G2 variation, which is supposed to be
> louder.
> Weirdly, the 10 in speakers don't have a frequency response
> down to the lowest note on the guitar (80Hz).
> (and the Mackie spec is slightly worse in that respect).
>
>
>
>
>>
>> The Genelec 8020 seem to be a Studio Monitor, maybe not good for using 
>in 
>> concert!?
>
> depends on the gig, I played a classical guitar set and a live-looping 
>set
> with them at a "background music" gig. People sat some distance away
> and listened while others talked.
> For a bar, they would be useless.
>
> If you want to hear the complex layers in your music, don't
> need pumpin' thumpin' volume, and are prepared to be careful with
> your speakers then studio monitors might be a cost effective option.
>
> Sorry I don't have a clear cut answer.
> I know you'd sound great thro' my old JBLs tho' ;-)
>
> andy
>
>
>> Best,
>> Chris
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "andy butler" 
><akbutler@tiscali.co.uk>
>> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
>> Sent: Friday, January 15, 2010 11:32 AM
>> Subject: Re: Fripp-Amplification
>>
>>
>>> hi Chris,
>>> 2 options for you to explore
>>>
>>> 1) JBL Eon powered speakers  2) If you're actually doing ambient in 
>>> places
>>> like art galleries, then
>>>   a pair of Genelec active monitors, even the small 8020, may be 
>enough.
>>>
>>> If you don't need stereo, then both of those options are available as
>>> single units.
>>>
>>> The Roland stuff *shouldn't* need a DI box, and will go direct to a 
>>> mixer,
>>> or even to the active speaker.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I can't remember if Fripp had a guitar amp in addition to his 
>>> quadrophonic
>>> set up
>>> in Norwich Cathedral. The pa he had was not bad, but nothing special,
>>> certainly not better than the Eons.
>>>
>>> andy butler
>>>
>>>
>>> chris@christojota.de wrote:
>>>> My problem with amplifying my ambient soundscapes is that the
>>>> keyboardsounds I use with my Roland GR 20 Guitarsyntesizer donīt work
>>>> well with my guitar amps
>>>
>>
>>
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