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This is an interesting thread for me in the light of my inability to gain interest from live venues in Bristol for a looping extravaganza. It was easy back in Wales where I was more in touch with the scene. I guess Ill have to build up my contacts again. For those of you expressed an interest, I'm keeping my nose/ear/ to the ground so to squeak. G > From: erdemhel@tnn.net > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: Live Audience Attendance: Up or Down in your city? > Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2010 10:23:01 +0200 > > hey. > > the live scene is in a struggle in istanbul too for sure. it is so funny to > see that the system has not changed at all. again it is the bands, acts who > get supported by major labels or major pr that do get a chance to do > touring. if you are doing experimental or a little adventurous music, you do > not have many opportunities. > > but on the other hand, there is much more opportunity for > producer-musicians. if you can produce a rock band, pop act, your own > albums, do remixes, and receive commissions from ensembles, festivals then > you have a lot of new opportunities that you would not be able to receive > before the digital age. you just need to be a engineer, producer, composer, > musician, lyricist when needed, that is all. this is the exciting part of > this new age for me. > > thanks and best to all from snowy istanbul. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <chris@christojota.de> > To: "Loopers-Delight" <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> > Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 9:57 AM > Subject: Re: Live Audience Attendance: Up or Down in your city? > > > > I´m from Germany, and have the same impression than you have for > > the US, Rick. I think,the live scene is only increasing for some > > of the well known, hip young acts, like Arctic Monkeys or so. > > (not so familar with the new names...) > > But the smaller acts, even quite famous bands like > > f.ex. GONG/STEVE HILLAGE BAND (double bill!) > > who had an audience in Bonn/Germany (close to Cologne) at the Harmonie > > in November last year of around 350, in Munich and Berlin it > > were only 200 - are struggling hard to get enough people to the shows. > > Not to talk about fairly unknown musicans > > like me. I´m happy having 20 people at my shows. > > And to even get engagements is very difficult, which you > > can understand, because most promoters cannot make it > > affordable with only 10 or 20 people attending. > > This means for small bands/musicians: It´s not just the breakdown > > of the CD-sales but also these problems with live-music that makes > > it hard these days to catch a piece of the cake. > > www.christojota.de > > www.myspace.com/christojota > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Rick Walker" <looppool@cruzio.com> > > To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 2:34 AM > > Subject: Live Audience Attendance: Up or Down in your city? > > > > > >> Per said, "The live scene is reported as increasing too, as I hear from > >> most countries." > >> > >> Not sure how it is in Sweden, Per, but this is NOT the case in the US, > >> or > >> at least in Northern California. > >> There has been a rise in the number of live shows compared to how > >> horrible it was here 5 years ago, > >> but audience numbers are minuscule compared to what they were in , say > >> the > >> early 80's in Santa Cruz. > >> In those days, there were several local bands that could sell out the > >> Catalyst (809 capacity) with > >> regularity. > >> > >> In 1993, my band Worlds Collide played the Catalyst once and drew close > >> to 700 customers. > >> We weren't asked back because our customers didn't drink enough. 700 > >> people > >> is a hell of a lot of people. > >> > >> Nowadays, you are lucky if you get 50 people to come see a show. Most > >> shows have 20-30 people > >> attending and most people balk at every spending more than $3-$5 USD for > >> a > >> show. > >> > >> I have a show this coming Saturday night at the Catalyst with Noise > >> Clinic > >> and I"m afraid of what the > >> attendance will be. > >> > >> Attendance, I've read, nationally, is down even in the 'big bin' shows. > >> Many groups that used to be able to > >> sell out the 'big bin' shows are now doubling and even trebling up on > >> their billings to be able to > >> make enough draw to justify playing such huge places. > >> > >> Tony Levin, Terry Bozio, Alan Holdsworth and Pat Mastelleto just played > >> a 200 seat club in Santa Cruz....................The last time Tony came > >> (with a lineup not nearly > >> as famous) he played a 700 seater. > >> > >> But Santa Cruz is an anomalous place sociologically speaking, so I don't > >> know if it is representative. > >> We have vastly more live entertainment per capita than any place I've > >> ever > >> toured in and we just aren't a very > >> big city (60,000 plus another 40,000 in our environs) > >> > >> What's it like in your city and/or country. Attendance up or attendance > >> down at shows? Indie shows? > >> Experimental shows? Up or down? I"m curious. > >> > > > > > > > We want to hear all your funny, exciting and crazy Hotmail stories. Tell us now |