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Fw: OT: Free Jazz/Avant-Garde Guitar/Bass/Drum Trios



Yeah, Joe and the tele is not well documented. I think he used it in his early years when playing in combos, and before his agent told him that he had to play solo to make a living...that is what prompted him to development that amazing chord solo method of this....mind blowing.
 
Of many other jazzers have used solid bodies...Abercrombie, Mike Stern, Lorne Lofkey, Ted Green (monster chord architect), and so on. You can easily get a big fat sound out of a solid body if you just use the neck pickup and an amp that can produce the tone.  All this debate and in the end it's a pickup on a stick of wood. :) 
 
Kris
 
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I'm with Kris on 'what works, works!' approach to gear.  Too many people get hung on stupid things and lose sight of what's actually important.

But it's the library guy in me, though, that wants to make a minor correction - while Joe Pass might've used a Telecaster, it doesn't seem to be well documented.  The most likely candidate when people think of "jazz" and "Telecaster" is my fellow Canuck, Ed Bickert.


ted.

Enemies are good for self-definition. Werner Herzog

--- On Tue, 3/30/10, Kris Hartung <khartung@q.com> wrote:

From: Kris Hartung <khartung@q.com>
Subject: Re: OT: Free Jazz/Avant-Garde Guitar/Bass/Drum Trios
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Received: Tuesday, March 30, 2010, 3:02 PM

Interesting.  The whole debate over what gear to use for jazz boxes is hilarious.  I can't believe some of the arguments I see, when everything basically comes down to personal taste. And then you see what Mary is using and it defies a lot of other recommendations, which is great.  What is the cleanest or best amp? What is the cleanest most flat frequency response speaker? What archtop projects the most or has the fattest acoustic sound? What is the best jazz guitar?  And so on ad infinitum. Everyone has the best answer.  In the end, there is no jazz guitar or jazz amp per se, especially when you have guys like Joe Pass using Telecasters.

With my new Mirabela 17 inch archtop, I went with the following:

I run into my Boss VF1 for reverb and a tiny bit of delay (and chorus, if I want a Mike Stern/Abrocrombie sound), then.....and then....because I can't make up my mind on whether I like an ultra clean SS state tone or a warm and spongy tube tone, I decided to have it both ways. Out of one channel of the Boss VF1 I run into an Acoustic Image Claris 1 head and a JBL 1X12 sealed and ported cabinet, in which I installed an Emincence Delta Pro 12A 400 Watt speaker. It is a very obedient speaker, like the rock of gibalter :)  Out of the other channel, I am running into a Peavey Delta Blue 1X15 tube combo amp, which I bought new last month but now selling and replacing with a Fender Hot Rod Series Blues Junior NOS 15W 1x12 (Jensen speaker) Tube Guitar Combo Amp....because the Delta Blue is just too god damned loud....crimey. Excellent tone, but is really for a bigger club with no PA.

So I will have an interesting blended set of tones.

Kris

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Forgot to add this OT earlier:

Mary Halvorson's gear when I saw her was her big fat jazz box (1970 Guild Artist Award) and using a Rat distortion (pretty sure it was a Turbo Rat), a DL4 (left on one of the delay settings with an expression pedal), and a volume pedal.  (A nice variation on the vintage Bill Frisell set-up!)

She got good use out of the volume pedal as her guitar has acoustic sound, she'd keep playing even when the pick-up volume was at zero.

Jessica Pavone had her viola was plugged into a Fender Blender pedal.

I can't recall amps, but wouldn't be surprised if they were borrowed for the gig.


ted h.



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