Re: looping with a netbook

[Dennis Moser <sinsofmachaut@gmail.com>]

What Per said...go with the Intel model and you should be just fine.

Best,

Dennis

On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 4:58 AM, Nadia Salom <nadia.salom@gmx.de> wrote:
> Hi,
> I have looked into hackintosh but I am not a programmer and I dont think 
>I
> could do this on my own. And Linux would be an option but... I dont 
>know. I
> am thinking of just getting a used iBook, macbook or power book...
> for example...
>
> Apple iBook G4 1.33 GHz 12"  1GB Ram
> 40 GB Harddrive... ( 300 euro)
>
> Apple PowerBook G4 12" 1,5Ghz 1,25GBRam 80Gb HDD SD (min. 300 euros)
>
> Apple Powerbook G4,17",1GHz,Airport, BT, 1,5GB, 80GB (375euros)
>
> APPLE MACBook 2GHZ 160GB 2GB Intel Core 2Duo (500euros)
>
> i think all they would be fast enough for live performance...playing some
> midi instruments, samples and also doing some looping on the
> fly.................
>
>
> -------- Original-Nachricht --------
> Datum: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 12:17:18 +0900
> Von: michael noble <looplog@gmail.com>
> An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Betreff: Re: looping with a netbook
>
> hi all,
>
> On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 4:16 PM, Mech <mech@m3ch.net> wrote:
>>
>> However, there was a previous question that asked about running Live in
>> Wine under Linux.  While Linux should be more robust overall, I believe 
>the
>> Wine libraries essentially load a virtual Windows machine.  So you're 
>kind
>> of running a computer inside a computer. Not very efficient, I don't
>> believe, and I wouldn't recommend it, since Wine would probably eat up 
>any
>> performance gains you'd get from Linux.  However, take that with a 
>grain of
>> salt, since I haven't actually played with Wine since its alpha 
>releases.
>
> This is not really accurate to my knowledge, and certainly does not 
>reflect
> my experience. Wine is no way a virtual machine. It is really nothing 
>more
> than a compatibility layer to translate windows api calls into something 
>the
> base system understands - it doesn't emulate software or hardware in any
> way. This will add a small processing overhead, but it really is very
> insignificant. Chances are, with a well configured linux system, 
>performance
> can be comparable to a windows system with the benefit of also being 
>able to
> use native linux audio apps.
>
> In the past I've run audiomulch under linux in this way, and in fact was
> easily able to run eight simultaneous instances of audiomulch (preferring
> parallel processes for performance and redundancy), passing their audio 
>into
> jack to be shared with linux apps and each other. With things like the
> wineasio audio output and the realtime wine patches, wine audio apps can 
>be
> made to run very efficiently and at low latencies. This was an older
> core2duo though, so a netbook would be a little more limited. Also, it's 
>not
> an out-of-the-box experience, so if system configuration and 
>optimization is
> not your thing, then maybe consider the hackintosh route. (that being 
>said
> there are some audio-centric linux audio distros optimized for low power
> machines like puredyne, and you can also buy a preconfigured msi-wind
> netbook with the Tranmission OS for not much more than a standard netbook
> price).
>
> So to answer the OPs question, windows audio apps can be made to run very
> efficiently under linux and with very low latencies. That being said, I
> really couldn't say about running later versions of ableton live. I don't
> have nor need it so I haven't tested it. It is rated gold over at 
>WineHQ, so
> it has certainly been tested and run by at least some people, and that's
> without the tweaks I mentioned above.
>
> -michael
>
>
>
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