Re: OT West African/African Diaspora rhythms: 3/4, 4/4, 6/8, 12/8

["Mark Showalter" <folkstone57@operamail.com>]

> Hello,

Sounds great & enjoy! BTW, watch out for sea lions, they can be vicious! 

> ok Mark I m taking a chamanic trip to the ocean right now, I ll let yióu 
>know
> what I see feel and hear.
> 
> Antony
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Mark Showalter <folkstone57@operamail.com>
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Sent: Sun, September 12, 2010 4:41:31 PM
> Subject: Re: OT West African/African Diaspora rhythms: 3/4, 4/4, 6/8, 
>12/8
> 
> 
> >
> >
> > hey let's shut down the world wide net: what is a sub pulse? Does 
>anyone have
> > one I could look at:-)
> 
> Of you can go look at one. First, go to the nearest ocean.
> 
> Second, find a sub.
> 
> Third, follow it around, preferably several miles underwater 
> because it's easier
> to see pulses way down there.
> 
> Let us all know when you see one.
> 
> > Antony Hequet
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: Mark Showalter <folkstone57@operamail.com>
> > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> > Sent: Sun, September 12, 2010 12:27:42 AM
> > Subject: Re: OT West African/African Diaspora rhythms: 3/4, 4/4, 6/8, 
>12/8
> >
> >
> > >   Hi Andy,
> > > Nice points that you make.
> > >
> > > My feeling however is that the Western perspective which 
> > assigns > lesser value to rhythm than
> > > melody, harmony or lyric (note:  if you invent an entire genre 
> > of > music based on a single rhythm
> > > like Tony Allen did when he invented the groove for 'AfroBeat' 
> > > for Fela Kuti you can't even
> > > get royalties from the music...........witness the Amen Break > 
> > that so revolutionized a lot of sample based hip
> > > hop)  has a very serious flaw when it comes to notation , and > 
> > that is that it doesn't have the
> > > concept of the 'sub-pulse'
> > >
> > Hello,
> >
> > I'd just like to point out here that the idea of getting 
> > royalties for coming up
> > with a "groove" or "feel" or such like is a very unreal concept. To 
>say the
> > least, it would put the courts into a position that is far worse than 
>what is
> > the norm today. Take Harrison being sued for "My Sweet Lord", which was
> > ridiculous & almost certainly would not have gone into the courts 
>today.
> > Besides, keep in mind that courts are not "esthetically" trained 
> > to really be in
> > a position to make decisions about the arts. Plus, there would 
> > come a time when
> > one "groove" would start to sound like another & the more the 
> > lines blurred, the
> > worse the situation would get. And to say the least, try to 
> > explain to a court
> > what a "sub-pulse" is........
> > Good luck on that one because as a composer/arranger with 8 years as a
> > theory/composition in 2 colleges, I'm still not clear on what the hell 
>a
> > sub-pulse is even though several drummers/percussionists that I 
> > have worked with
> > in the past have explained it to me over the years. I feel somewhat 
>like one
> > bemused fellow who said after taking a boat trip with Albert Einstein:
> >
> > "After several long explanations from the professor, I am finally able 
>to say
> > that when it comes to Relativity Theory, he understands it well. "
> >
> > BTW, please do NOT try to explain what a sub-pulse is as I have 
> > the feeling it
> > would start a cascade of email arguments that would shut down the 
>world wide
> > internet!
> >
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> 
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