Thanks for all the thoughts.
Yeah, I'm pretty good at setting up my Mackie 1402 or 1602 so
that I can get maximum
routing (and muting options) but this D-Tar is a lot less
sophisticated (yet I can get it on
an airplane).
I'll have to experiment with the master effects chain. I
have to look up whether it is pre or post faders.
anyway, thanks for all the time you spent and your
friendship. I hope I get to hear you play some day.
who knows whether someone will step up and do the looping
festival in nor cal again next year.
there are some rumblings, but it's really time for me to
redirect my energies to my own artistry after 10 straight
years of tithing my time and energy to the looping community.
I love it, but I feel like I'm running out of time to get the
myriad creative things accomplished that I want to get
accomplished on this mortal coil.
Cheers, rick
On 11/20/10 5:53 AM, Simeon Harris wrote:
well i don't have my lp-1 any more. i'm using mobius
in bidule on a macbook pro. but i used to use it with a rack
mixer. i used to split my dry signal into three streams. one went
direct to the mixer and the other two went to my repeater and the
lp-1. the lp-1 was set to 100% wet. the mixer had mute buttons on
it, so i could mute the dry signal completely. if you put the lp-1
into the master aux send of your mixer, you could do the same,
simply by dropping the fader where you have your main signal going
in. the aux send will be pre-fader, so signal will still get sent
to the lp-1. the lp-1 would be set to 100% wet. i think the
inserts would be pre-fader too, so no problems there.
i did use the aux sends in the lp-1. you can't alter the levels
directly, but volume control can be achieved further along the
chain...especially if you route them back to a channel on the
mixer. in fact having a slightly larger mixer would allow you to
have main signal on channel 1, lp-1 main output on channel 2, aux
1 output on channel 3 and aux 2 output on channel 4. total
control. i had my aux 1 routed to a lexicon mpx-1, so i could
further treat my loops. the outputs came back to another channel
on my mixer. i had a kaoss pad on the fx send of the repeater too.
again...it came back to it's own channel.
i never really use song form looping, so i can't help you there,
i'm afraid. many people do and some of them post on the lp-1
forum, so i'm sure you could get some help there, if you feel you
need it. i know it's completely possible to get some quite
sophisticated arrangements going with the right string of
commands. sounds exciting and scary - hats off to you sir and best
of luck with it!
sim
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 8:08 PM, Rick
Walker <looppool@cruzio.com>
wrote:
On 11/19/10 9:08 AM, Simeon Harris wrote:
cool. i can't remember how i
stumbled on this...probably by accident, but it's a
great technique. i think i usually used fast scramble
and then did half speed on the loop to get the scramble
rate i liked.
because i split my dry signal and my loops
Currently, I'm using the inserts to send and return from
my stompbox pedals (and M9 looper)
and then, probably primitively, I'm sending the final
mix to the LP1 and from there to the PA
My brother says I should not do this and should use the
Master Effects loop to send to the LP1
but I wanted to be able to have a completely wet signal
if I need it in the LP1.
Do you have an opinion on this one?
, it's easy to mute the dry part.
you can have some fun creating loops where you can't
hear what you're playing - especially if the loop is
heavily treated with fx. i learned this tip from david
torn, while watching one of his "painting with guitar"
videos years ago.
Have you experimented using
the Aux sends, out of curiosity?
I haven't even looked. Can you change the volume of
each send individually?
It's funny, but though I use a lot of the features on
the LP1 I don't really know it
deeply. I'm just now wanting to use it to create
coherent singer/songwriter forms
so I have a bit of a learning curve to figure out what
people have done along those lines.
I've played abstractly for the last 10
years..........complete improv always and suddenly,
I'm really hankering for song form, structure and
melody in my own work: writing my first ever
singer/songwriter record (using a ton of really simply
played acoustic instruments--mostly because I"m a
neophyte on all of them). I'm simultaneously really
turned on musically and really scared and insecure
(especially about writing lyrics). I'm trying to
force myself to grow through the stuff that turns me
on and scares me simultaneously.
It's going to be an exciting year!
anyway, if you come up with some nice stuff using this
technique, please post some clips, i'd love to hear what
you do with it.
btw - just read on facebook that bob has a new update
out for the lp-1, so hopefully you guys will get some
bugs fixed!
Yeah, no kidding. This LP2
project and the fact that it's radical delay this year
(due entirely to the irritating people who
manufacturer the boxes he had designed who have held
him
up for an entire year) has forced him to take on
another full time job (as well as raise his family of
five) really put the LP1 problems on back burner, but
I know he's back on it again.
I've got some really killer rhythmic software
additions coming down the pike for the machine
and he's promised those ideas top priority for the
person who's helping him code now.
Stay tuned!
all the best
you too, Simeon!
rick
sim
ps - watch the "reply-to" address if you don't want to
go on-list
Wonderful technique,
Simeon.
For all the times I"ve used sus replace (I'm
responsible for putting a version in the upcoming
new LP-2 Mini Looper) I never thought of doing
this.
I suppose on a single song you could go to wet
only in the main menu of the Looperlative
to get the loop on it's own.
I just love recontextualizing random and then
bending it to one's own will ----
muaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaahaaaaaaa!
take care, and thanks for the tip.
Rick Walker
Thanks
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