Re: Fripper Gear Trivia

["Mark Showalter" <folkstone57@operamail.com>]

Hello,

Having read another reply to this already which covers some of the same 
comments I would make, I would add that this is nearly impossible for most 
places. There isn't the time, the time available without distractions ( 
needless to say empty of customers ) & realistically, no reason to do so. 
Most audiences simply are unaware of the work that goes into a 
performance, much less the prep time needed. Plus, even thinking about 
modifying a delay to agree with the room dimentions is a rather extreme 
waste of time if it means not being able to get the practical work done 
getting ready for a performance. All this assumes, of course, that one has 
the time in advance to do ANY prep work. Too often, it's get to the 
location, set up while another performer is having his moment in the 
spotlight, & then.............

> 
> In light of this reply by Andy about WHY Fripp uses what he does the
> way he does (and it tangentially gets at his attitude about
> photography during his performances), let me ask you all this:
> 
> How many of you are willing to take the time to truly understand the
> acoustical space of the places where you perform? How many of you are
> willing to spend the time to measure the delay times in a venue and
> then adjust your gear to maximize the sonic experience of space that
> you might be able to create. And having done all that, how many of you
> are going to ask your audience to experience that space the way that
> you have envisioned playing it? ... now lather, rinse, and repeat for
> 20+ years.
> 
> I didn't think so.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Dennis
> 
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> 
> 
> On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 2:39 AM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> 
>wrote:
> >
> >> 2010/12/6 Rainer Straschill <moinsound@googlemail.com
> >> <mailto:moinsound@googlemail.com>>
> >>
> >>
> >>    Let me ask you this, then: Suppose you had three (or two, or one)
> >>    H8000(s):
> >>    What would you do with them that you can't do with what you have at
> >>    your disposal and that would really bring forward what you do
> >> musically?
> >>
> >
> > When I saw Fripp he certainly needed 3 long stereo delays, with 2 of 
>them
> > very precisely the same length.
> >
> > 1 stereo delay was used to create a loop in his front 2 speakers.
> > The other 2 were very carefully routed so that they created
> > a stereo soundfield that gradually swept back over the heads
> > of his audience to the rear 2 speakers.
> > I not heard of anyone else configuring their delays to create
> > spacial movement quite like that, it was impressive, and particularly
> > the synth harps (not a sound I usually enjoy) really seemed to
> > hang in the air a few feet above head height as they gradually moved 
>back.
> >
> > I expect that if he specified top quality reliable audio gear to 
>accomplish
> > this that his setup was not in any way unreasonable.
> >
> > There's a nice Zappa quote about money
> > "Some people put it up their nose, I put it in my ear."
> >
> > andy butler
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >

>



Mark Showalter
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