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i did the last Y2K10 show with 2 M9s,no midi controllers,laptops or EDPs,it felt quite good;-) cheers Luis On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 8:28 AM, Mark Hamburg <mark@grubmah.com> wrote: > Okay. I don't use pre-recorded loops. But I think I am coming to >appreciate why most of the loop pedals out there (the LP2 soon to be an >exception) are so feature limited. > > Once upon a time, I made have use of my EDP and played with feedback and >next loop and all the rest. Hey, it was there, it was easy to grab, it >was my first real looper in a long time. Fripp's Let the Power Fall had >given me a taste for the 5-10 second loop with the feedback control at >less than 100%. Etc. > > Then the EDPs drifted out of my rack. First to try to make room for an >LP1 and then because I was trying to go rackless and ended up using the >looper on the M13. > > Now I find myself fairly routinely recording a loop, closing it in >overdub mode purely to avoid cutting off the sound, maybe overdubbing a >bit more, and then showing a tendency to just let it play while I >improvise/noodle/whack-off (choose your description). And you know what? >I like working this way. The loop fills the sonic landscape in, but it >lets me concentrate on the guitar rather than on the loop. > > So, I've got the LP1 and it does all sorts of wonderful things and under >pressure from Bill I've even jury rigged myself a MIDI foot controller (I >now have a very confused EDP). What do I do? I record static loops and >let them play. Maybe I throw them into reverse of half-speed. Maybe I >turn on scramble. And I generally set up multiple loops often of >different lengths. But after getting a few loops going and mixed, it all >just becomes backing tracks. > > When does my Looper's Delight membership card get pulled? When do I stop >getting invited to Santa Cruz to perform? ;-) > > Or in the quest for a rackless system, maybe what I need is a simple >looper or two to do the backing tracks thing and a long delay line with >feedback and a way to mute the input to do the Frippertronics-style >thing. The only issue is that I'd like the latter to be syncable to the >former so that it doesn't all just become a mish-mash of unsynced loops >-- though that can be fun in its own right. The LP2 might actually be a >great choice here given support for things like quantized replace, but >last I knew it wasn't stereo friendly the way even the DL4 is (although >it's a mono looper) which means I'm back to worrying about needing >mixing/routine support and the benefits of shedding the rack may start to >fade. > > So, it's probably stick with the rack, look for a real MIDI foot >controller solution, and try to better exploit the LP1. > > I've got visions of an LP1 and my Korg AM8000R shoved inside something >like the M13 with a really tuned performance model and control set, but >that isn't going to happen and given the confession above, I have to ask >whether I would really exploit it. But I'd certainly plunk down the money >for it within reason... > > Mark > >