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Re: Backing tracks: A confession



i did the last Y2K10 show with 2 M9s,no midi controllers,laptops or
EDPs,it felt quite good;-)
cheers
Luis

On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 8:28 AM, Mark Hamburg <mark@grubmah.com> wrote:
> Okay. I don't use pre-recorded loops. But I think I am coming to 
>appreciate why most of the loop pedals out there (the LP2 soon to be an 
>exception) are so feature limited.
>
> Once upon a time, I made have use of my EDP and played with feedback and 
>next loop and all the rest. Hey, it was there, it was easy to grab, it 
>was my first real looper in a long time. Fripp's Let the Power Fall had 
>given me a taste for the 5-10 second loop with the feedback control at 
>less than 100%. Etc.
>
> Then the EDPs drifted out of my rack. First to try to make room for an 
>LP1 and then because I was trying to go rackless and ended up using the 
>looper on the M13.
>
> Now I find myself fairly routinely recording a loop, closing it in 
>overdub mode purely to avoid cutting off the sound, maybe overdubbing a 
>bit more, and then showing a tendency to just let it play while I 
>improvise/noodle/whack-off (choose your description). And you know what? 
>I like working this way. The loop fills the sonic landscape in, but it 
>lets me concentrate on the guitar rather than on the loop.
>
> So, I've got the LP1 and it does all sorts of wonderful things and under 
>pressure from Bill I've even jury rigged myself a MIDI foot controller (I 
>now have a very confused EDP). What do I do? I record static loops and 
>let them play. Maybe I throw them into reverse of half-speed. Maybe I 
>turn on scramble. And I generally set up multiple loops often of 
>different lengths. But after getting a few loops going and mixed, it all 
>just becomes backing tracks.
>
> When does my Looper's Delight membership card get pulled? When do I stop 
>getting invited to Santa Cruz to perform? ;-)
>
> Or in the quest for a rackless system, maybe what I need is a simple 
>looper or two to do the backing tracks thing and a long delay line with 
>feedback and a way to mute the input to do the Frippertronics-style 
>thing. The only issue is that I'd like the latter to be syncable to the 
>former so that it doesn't all just become a mish-mash of unsynced loops 
>-- though that can be fun in its own right. The LP2 might actually be a 
>great choice here given support for things like quantized replace, but 
>last I knew it wasn't stereo friendly the way even the DL4 is (although 
>it's a mono looper) which means I'm back to worrying about needing 
>mixing/routine support and the benefits of shedding the rack may start to 
>fade.
>
> So, it's probably stick with the rack, look for a real MIDI foot 
>controller solution, and try to better exploit the LP1.
>
> I've got visions of an LP1 and my Korg AM8000R shoved inside something 
>like the M13 with a really tuned performance model and control set, but 
>that isn't going to happen and given the confession above, I have to ask 
>whether I would really exploit it. But I'd certainly plunk down the money 
>for it within reason...
>
> Mark
>
>