Re: m-13 m-9

[Mark Hamburg <mark@grubmah.com>]

On Jan 23, 2011, at 9:59 AM, William Walker wrote:

mark said: "The other effects are reasonably good but not that psychedelic/ambient. " 

What exactly is your criteria for psychedelic ambient Mark?  I have no problem achieving lush ambient textures or psychedelic  sounds out of my M-9. have you actually spent much time programming an M-9 or M-13?

Psychedelic, I'm not sure. It's probably a fairly flexible word. I think I was worrying more about ambient effects and looking more at the reverbs and pitch shifters and comparing them to what I can do with the AM8000R. As I noted in my follow up, the Line6 units do some nice stuff, but they aren't as flexible in routing for ambience effects unless you can go 100% wet and they can't do the pitch shifter feedback thing. That said, you can just run a bunch of echo programs at various delay settings and get a nice lush background.

For ambience, I would probably check out the Eventide Pitch factor and Space pedals, but I haven't actually played with them.

well of course, but then again Eventide beats everyone in the sound quality department. better A to D converters among other things. Let's see, one pitch factor $499, one Space, TBD, not yet out, but for the sake of argument lets say another $499, thats $1000 of signal processing right there. still interested Gareth? :-) if you can afford that firepower go for it as you won't be disappointed. I personally want a time factor and a Space which I saw demoed at NAMM, and was one of three things that really made my Shakespeare curl ( to quote XTC) The other two were the pigtronix Philosopher King which I've raved about before, and the new Moog lap steel which I'm hoping to check out more if I get to the factory in March.

The math on the Eventide pedals has given me pause as well. The Line6 pedals are certainly a great value for the money. So, it depends on what criteria one is applying.

Mark